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Old 07-02-2008, 10:48 PM   #31
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:04 PM   #32
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Gross hyperbole.



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Which part of his statement in bold is gross hyperbole?
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:16 PM   #33
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Which part of his statement in bold is gross hyperbole?
I guess he thinks they wouldn't use waterboarding. I bet if I proposed on Cougarboard that to fight al-qaida we should scare them by publicly executing everyone at Guantanamo, taping it and letting Al-jazeera TV broadacast it, that I would get some rousing agreement by quite a few.

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Old 07-03-2008, 12:06 AM   #34
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Which part of his statement in bold is gross hyperbole?
Using the example of waterboarding to make a moral equivalence between America and al-Qaeda.
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Old 07-03-2008, 01:28 AM   #35
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Using the example of waterboarding to make a moral equivalence between America and al-Qaeda.
I don't think that is what he is saying at all (though he can correct me if that is what he is saying).

I think it is pretty clear that he is saying that the more the US engages in conduct which is similar to the conduct that makes al-Qaeda reprehensible, the more the US and al-Qaeda appear to be morally equivalent; so the US shouldn't start down the path of emulating al-Qaeda behavior in any areas at all.

He is right.
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:20 AM   #36
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I don't think that is what he is saying at all (though he can correct me if that is what he is saying).

I think it is pretty clear that he is saying that the more the US engages in conduct which is similar to the conduct that makes al-Qaeda reprehensible, the more the US and al-Qaeda appear to be morally equivalent; so the US shouldn't start down the path of emulating al-Qaeda behavior in any areas at all.

He is right.
The US is not starting down that path. Not even close.
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sounds like Hitchens defined it for himself.
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Using the example of waterboarding to make a moral equivalence between America and al-Qaeda.
I didn't say there was a moral equivalence. My argument is that we should not stoop to the same tactics they use.

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The US is not starting down that path. Not even close.
Great, so we have a lot of room to become less noble. Awesome.
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Great, so we have a lot of room to become less noble. Awesome.
Lemme guess ... you're a glass half-empty guy.
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