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2) I'm not asking for tax cuts or rebate checks or anything, with the claim that I will direct my money more efficiently to help the poor. Those who make this claim better at least give a portion of that recent tax break they got to charitable organizations. I'm still waiting to hear from the first one who did this... 3) I stand to be hurt more than most by Obama's tax plan (marginal tax increase of around 10%, while watching most everyone else get tax cuts), yet I'm still considering voting for him. So spare me the "you just want more of my money to waste" rhetoric. |
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Boy, these debates are so predictable.
I never said that pure socialism is the ultimate solution to all of our problems. But I categorically reject the notion that it is evil to use tax dollars to further the public good and to help the poor. It's a question of balance.
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Don't confuse the sheer size of government "charity" with efficiency.
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What I am opposed to (if we can get back to the thread topic) is the attitude expressed by Obama that federally mandating the redistribution of wealth is being "neighborly."
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I seriously doubt it. Sorry to be so predictable, but opposition to the welfare state has little to do with a desire to screw over your fellow man.
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Whats the matter ER, don't you think I'm a big enough boy to decide where its best spent? Or are you not confident that your money is going where it should? You give more so your a bigger man? Is this really a relavant question? Or are you the absolute arbiter of all things charitable.
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I didn't get a tax rebate. Why do you assume everyone got a rebate? Why is it even called a tax rebate when a lot of people who paid a lot of taxes didn't get one.
It was a handout to stimulate the economy. I have no problem with it and that I didn't get one, but I am tired of hearing it was a "tax rebate". |
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