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Well you could make that same argument about any aspect of Mormon tribalism or tribalism in general. Bottom line. Not voting for a mainstream, active, popular Mormon is about as anti-tribalism as you can get.
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This needs to be said. Tribalism is not a good thing. It's a bad thing. Much of the evils associated with religion stem from tribalist fervor. Welcome to Rome, Mormons.
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Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe suddenly as the restoration continues to be de-emphasized, there will be a sudden awakening and the stone cut from the mountain will stop slowing down. The Book of Mormon's themes contain the idea that churches and tribes wax and wane. It is pretty clear about why they wane. Pride, complacency, materialism, seeking the approval of Babylon. What does it mean for a believer to be King of Babylon? Is God getting giddy at the prospect? |
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Mike, I'm a tribalist in every sense of the word. I'm a tribalist when it's not cool to be a tribalist. I'm the BYU geek that sticks out in a land of BYU supporters. I'll pimp Romney knowing it betrays my own personal views on politics.
You could say I'm for "mainstreaming" of the church but I call it a return to the foundations of doctrines in the Book of Mormon and other LDS scripture. Jesus Christ should be the emphasis. There does need to be a shift in works/grace to better match the Book of Mormon. You can call it mainstreaming and dissolution of our identity and brand but I don't see it that way at all. Our tribal aspects are a cultural thing. We must not let any aspect of tribalism affect the truths of the gospel we teach. Tribalism has to do with non-doctrinal issues such as business, entertainment, and politics. Would you sacrifice truth for tribalism? No. We seek truth and correct doctrine irrespective of how it affects our relation to others. |
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Of course, if you are honest, you will acknowledge the abandonment of polygamy and extending the priesthood to blacks as the two most significant "mainstreaming" events in LDS history.
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We are ballast on opposite ends of the ship. There is a place for everything you said. I personally feel the ship has tipped too far and is now plowing through the water, and I advocate more ballast on my end. |
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