06-27-2008, 07:09 PM | #31 | |
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If Clinton had done the same thing 3 years earlier, I would be more than willing to admit he did something right. It's not a partisanhip issue, it's an issue of what is the right thing to do. You're coming off more partisan than anyone right now, DDD. |
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06-27-2008, 07:10 PM | #32 | |
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No such luck with Iraq. We couldn't even find Osama in Tora Bora. he still taunts us in videos. So again, not the same comparison. There is no objective measure of success so far in this war on terror. There was definitely an objective meausure of success in WW2.
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06-27-2008, 07:13 PM | #33 | |
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Regardless of party affiliation, I operate under the assumption that our Presidents do NOT want foreign attacks on domestic soil and will do whatever they can to prevent them. hence, our fairly impressive record of safety since our inception as a nation.
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The argument you are making is like saying, you know I'm not really aware of anyone having tried to break into my house so I really got screwed when they convinced me to buy locks for the doors. As for Obama, if he continues polices that are calculated to keep us safe, then he is entitled for credit when we remain safe. I don't think that you can credit a president too much or blame him much for anything at the end of his first month, but at the end of the first 6 months is a different story. I guess I'm just not sure how you are developing the notion that there just hasn't really been any true threat we have been combating domestically. I know that my friends in federal law enforcement tell me otherwise.
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I am happy there have been no terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11, but I don't see why the lack of attacks is because of Bush. There is nothing partisan about that. Next year at this time, I wont attribute the lack of attacks to any special thing Obama has done. Keeping our country free from attacks is a great accomplishment, but since pretty much all of our US presidents have done it, I dont see anything extraordinary about Bush's actions. I forget, though, that this is a group of McCain lovers who are impressed with his security creditials...he sits on committees that decide pensions, for example. So no wonder everyone is stoked that Bush formed more committees. Committees keep up safe!
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06-27-2008, 07:18 PM | #37 |
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The Bush admin decided that the best way to put out this fire was to blow it out. Unfortunately they had never heard of bellows.
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06-27-2008, 07:20 PM | #38 | |
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Are you at high altitude today or something? Take a deep breath. |
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I may be old school. I have always thought growing up and have never changed my mind that the best way to keep someone from bothering you is to have them scared as hades of you and what you might do.
Now, I will agree if you have folks who don't worry about dieing, that attitude might be useless. Of course I don't know how you deal with people who don't worry about dieing. |
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I disagree that there is no objective measure. Totally disagree. One measure is preventing further attack. Check. Another is destroying the Taliban, capturing or killing Bin Laden, and keeping terrorist training camps from operating in the Middle East. Failure. Another would be installing operational western friendly governments in both of the countries we invaded. So far, failure. I'm certainly willing to criticize, but I think it is clear that some credit is also deserved.
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