Utes getting screwed left and right by the officials but still playing well

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The Pac 10 regularly wins a lot of games in the NCAA tournament, and most of its teams have has NCAA tournament success. The MWC doesn't compare.

UNLV has had success and last year fared well. They have a good coach for now and will continue to succeed, though they lost a lot this year from past year. I will not argue about BYU's sucky NCAA tourney experiences.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The Utes compare. Not the rest of the MWC, sadly.

Since Andre graduated even Utah's NCAA success has taken a hit, save for the anomaly of Bogut which was like BYU's Ainge in that he singlehandedly led Utah to some tourney success. I think the U lost in the first round in 2002 and 2004 while winning in 2000 and 2003.

I think the future of Utah is 50% one and done and 50% first round wins then out. Which is better than BYU.

[mpfunk]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Since Andre graduated even Utah's NCAA success has taken a hit, save for the anomaly of Bogut which was like BYU's Ainge in that he singlehandedly led Utah to some tourney success. I think the U lost in the first round in 2002 and 2004 while winning in 2000 and 2003.

I think the future of Utah is 50% one and done and 50% first round wins then out. Which is better than BYU.

I disagree about Utah's NCAA future. I think it is more like 30% one and done, 60% first round victories, and 10% sweet sixteen.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by mpfunk

I disagree about Utah's NCAA future. I think it is more like 30% one and done, 60% first round victories, and 10% sweet sixteen.

MP, what do you base that rosy scenario on? Boylen may be able to turn that out by "just doing his job," but I only see wins over High Point and something called "USC Upstate" so far during the Boylen Era. Not saying it won't happen, but just curious as to your confidence.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

MP, what do you base that rosy scenario on? Boylen may be able to turn that out by "just doing his job," but I only see wins over High Point and something called "USC Upstate" so far during the Boylen Era. Not saying it won't happen, but just curious as to your confidence.

Tradition, my friend. Funk's stats reflect the past 70 years of success.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Tradition, my friend. Funk's stats reflect the past 70 years of success.

Quit living in the past.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

Quit living in the past.

The pesent is but a fleeting snapshot. All else the past. Tradition and its kin reputation are all there is.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The pesent is but a fleeting snapshot. All else the past. Tradition and its kin reputation are all there is.

Very poetic, and almost convincing.

I bet modern-day Mongolians, Mayans, and dare I say it, Greeks, would find those sentiments most alluring. And from among them, only the Greeks play a decent game of basketball.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

One other thing. Until the MWC starts winning NCAA playoff games you're not going to convince me it is anything close to the Pac 10. The Pac 10 routinely puts teams in the Final Four, has a lot of NC's, and Sweet 16's and Elite 8's are an annual event. Outside of Utah the MWC's NCAA record is an embarrassment, to put it mildly.

I'd like to see a comparison in tournament records. It would be fascinating.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

Very poetic, and almost convincing.

I bet modern-day Mongolians, Mayans, and dare I say it, Greeks, would find those sentiments most alluring. And from among them, only the Greeks play a decent game of basketball.

We are the Greeks. They are alive and well, in us. You haven't been paying attention.