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[Indy Coug]

The problem becomes when your bosses like to take their Happy Hour to a strip club.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

Ultumately making it rain will be what advances you, I agree. However, when you are young in your career it is helpful in many industries to schmooze with the senior people. The more that they know you, the more that they are comfortable giving you opportunities to develop your skillset at work.

I am a budding financial expert witness and early on in my career the best way for me to get on the most preferable jobs was to get to know the managers and seniors. The best way to get to know them was to go out to lunch with them, and attend happy hours. I am glad I did it. It served me well. There were Mormons in our office that did not network with their superiors and it landed them on shitty jobs.

You are correct. I did make it sound like networking was not important. My point was that you can still advance if you dont want to network at these events.....but your chances are greatly improved if you DO go.

If someone is being anti-social, that usually doesnt help much in any aspect of life.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The problem becomes when your bosses like to take their Happy Hour to a strip club.

I totally agree. A strip club is different from a happy hour at the local bar and grill, at least imo...you have nudity and simulated sex going on.

In my firm, this would be a non-issue, anyhow.

There is so much liability and HR nightmares with making strip clubs a "semi official" after-work activity that you dont see that kind of stuff going on. Used to....for sure. when I was in Houston on some projects, our client invited us to go with them. everyone declined.

It was against firm policy to go and you can never run through expenses from strip clubs......but I said no thanks because I knew that it was wrong to go. Other people wanted to go, but they didnt want to get in trouble.

Professionals who are going to strip clubs as part of a social activity with co-workers are highly suspect. Do that on the weekends, not with your co-workers.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I didnt read all the replies, but a few thoughts...



4. Many large firms have a Friday tradition involving libations....."wine downs," "margarita mixers," traditional happy hours offsite....this is not uncommon. I am not sure I agree with

The f@&ing catalina wine mixer - Stepbrothers

[Archaea]

It still confuses me a bit to this day, why you can't have it both ways, drink a seltzer water, or diet coke, have fun with the buds or with co-workers. Even if they know you're Mormon, many will try to engage you until you state, "I can't I'm in training for X race." Even drinkers understand that.

But it always strikes me a little weird that drinkers pester non-drinkers. What does it matter what's in your glass, you drink what floats your boat and I'll drink what's in mine. Aside from a strip club, I'll go to wherever the buds or clients wish.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Archaea

It still confuses me a bit to this day, why you can't have it both ways, drink a seltzer water, or diet coke, have fun with the buds or with co-workers. Even if they know you're Mormon, many will try to engage you until you state, "I can't I'm in training for X race." Even drinkers understand that.

But it always strikes me a little weird that drinkers pester non-drinkers. What does it matter what's in your glass, you drink what floats your boat and I'll drink what's in mine. Aside from a strip club, I'll go to wherever the buds or clients wish.

Have you ever been pestered, really?

I have never had anyone bug me because I wasnt drinking alcohol. Nobody cares. Maybe i am a rare exception.

What do people say to you?

In my experience, people are usually very HAPPY that I am not drinking....that way, I can be both DDD and the DD at the same time.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Have you ever been pestered, really?

I have never had anyone bug me because I wasnt drinking alcohol. Nobody cares. Maybe i am a rare exception.

What do people say to you?

In my experience, people are usually very HAPPY that I am not drinking....that way, I can be both DDD and the DD at the same time.

Most of the time I have not been. But a couple of times, they were downright obnoxious.

"Come on, try a taste."

So I promptly stuck my pinky in the drink, licked my pinky, and said, "See I didn't want a drink."

Nobody took another sip from that drink.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Most of the time I have not been. But a couple of times, they were downright obnoxious.

"Come on, try a taste."

So I promptly stuck my pinky in the drink, licked my pinky, and said, "See I didn't want a drink."

Nobody took another sip from that drink.

That is obnoxious. I would expect that in 8th grade, not at work.

btw, nice mental image of you licking your pinky. HOT!

[RockyBalboa]

In my business and sales experiences there've been times where I was razzed a little bit here and there, but I always noticed it was good natured and never mean spirited.

I was in Denver for business 3 straight weeks last Summer and had been working with a tight knit group of 15 people. Same people everyday from 7AM to 10PM at night and a few times they invited to go get drinks with them.

Like TripletDaddy I'd go along for the social hangout, getting to know them better. The first time they noticed I wasn't drinking alcohol a couple of them pointed it out.

Being the coincidence that I was also the only person in the group from Utah, the questions eventually came. At first there was a little bit of good natured ribbing, but never mean spirited.

The last couple of nights they went out and I went with them. 2 people in the group in particular were really trying to get me to drink with them, one of them one of the hottest women I've ever met in my life, and an interesting thing happened. I drank like a fish....just kidding. The others in the group actually became very protective of me and respected the fact I didn't want to drink and told the others to leave me alone, lol.

It was an interesting thing to watch.

Lesson learned: Stick to your guns, but not in a haughty way, just a very nice and casual way and still be part of the group and not be a social retard, and respect them for their beliefs and those who at first thought that your lifestyle might be a little odd, will end up defending you and respecting you.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

That is obnoxious. I would expect that in 8th grade, not at work.

btw, nice mental image of you licking your pinky. HOT!

I failed to provide the lead up, so I can see the grounds for your sarcasm.

After having explained, "dude or dudette, I'm Mormon, I'm here with the buddies, and I'm in training, so no, I'm happy with my seltzer water", to receive consistent badgering, I found one need only be equally obnoxious to stop it. After spending considerable time here, I've learned how to be obnoxious. Lots of teachers. Without it, I wouldn't know how to conduct myself socially.