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Old 10-21-2008, 05:40 PM   #21
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I am afraid for the future of my family.

I am afraid for the security of this nation.

Obama has not shown me anything or said anything to alleviate those fears.

I am man enough to admit it.
You are man enough to admit that you don't like the guy from the other party? Your standard for manliness puts you on par with Richard Simmons.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:42 PM   #22
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Tex, the one policy perspective I'd like to see is a change of whose butts are on the line. In the future, I'd more a George Bush I approach of having a true coalition or Afghanistan approach where we dump it off to another.

Economically, we can't afford any other conflict right now. It's not a question of being a pussy, it's a question of, we don't have any money, we're broke.

However, coordinating efforts with those who do may be an option.

It will take years before we can become a police man again, if we wish to do so.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:42 PM   #23
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More fun commentary on Biden's "guaranteed crisis" gaffe:

Hugh Hewitt:



Bill Dyer:



One doesn't need to wonder how Obama would've handled the hostage crisis: just look at Jimmy Carter.

Biden knows this, and Allah-be-praised we got him on tape saying so.

Wow- so now conservatives are even inventing the crisis that Biden MUST have been referring to, and then inventing Obama's response to that crisis.

This must be more solid proof. It came from Tex's poll of conservative columnists, each of whom took a "poll" of themselves which now represents fact.

Nice.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:43 PM   #24
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You are man enough to admit that you don't like the guy from the other party? Your standard for manliness puts you on par with Richard Simmons.
You really are a condescending asshole, aren't you?

I'm man enough to admit that I fear for my and my family's well being with Obama as President.
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Tex, the one policy perspective I'd like to see is a change of whose butts are on the line. In the future, I'd more a George Bush I approach of having a true coalition or Afghanistan approach where we dump it off to another.

Economically, we can't afford any other conflict right now. It's not a question of being a pussy, it's a question of, we don't have any money, we're broke.

However, coordinating efforts with those who do may be an option.

It will take years before we can become a police man again, if we wish to do so.
I'm happy to have the world along if we can get them. But I don't favor turning national security decisions over to the good will of Old Europe and Russia.

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Wow- so now conservatives are even inventing the crisis that Biden MUST have been referring to, and then inventing Obama's response to that crisis.
Hard to picture four or five scenarios that don't include Iran.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:55 PM   #26
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You really are a condescending asshole, aren't you?

I'm man enough to admit that I fear for my and my family's well being with Obama as President.
Wowzers- you are man enough to admit that you are afraid of the guy from the other party and his effect on your party.

That must take some real guts. Then again, Richard Simmons is man enough to wear spandex on national tv. I think that may actually take more guts than your "brave" statement.

Let's try to map out where your statement ranks on a list of manly statements:

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I killed a bear with my bare hands

My car broke down. I fixed it.

I worked long hours today at my job.

I am lost. Can you give me directions?

I watched Sex and the City. And I liked it.

Richard Simmons? That guy is in SHAPE!

Don't the Utes look fabulous in red?

I am afraid that the guy from the political party I don't support will be bad for my family.

The Jonas Brothers are coming in concert!!!

As you can see, your statement ranks slightly more manly than "The Jonas Brothers are coming in concert!!!", but is a bit less manly than saying "Don't the Utes look fabulous in red?"

I think you can do better.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:57 PM   #27
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I'm happy to have the world along if we can get them. But I don't favor turning national security decisions over to the good will of Old Europe and Russia.



Hard to picture four or five scenarios that don't include Iran.
And if they include Iran, they must include Israel. And if they include Israel, they must include Obama secretly plotting to destroy Israel.

Got it. It is like they ARE Biden.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:01 PM   #28
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Here's Sarah Palin on the Biden gaffe. I'm glad to see folks run with this one; it's so revealing of what Biden really thinks about Obama:

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Two weeks from today, Americans will be asked to cast their vote for the next president of the United States. There’s no time to wait. Let’s get right to it.

Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday? He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we’ll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration. He told Democrat donors to mark his words – that there were “at least four or five scenarios” that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe!

He didn’t specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let’s review the Obama foreign policy agenda.

Our opponent wants to sit down with the world’s worst dictators. With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to “wipe Israel off the map.” Let’s call that crisis scenario number one.

Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism. We’ll call that scenario number two.

He opposed the surge strategy that has finally brought victory in Iraq within sight. He’s voted to cut off funding for our troops, leaving our young men and women at grave risk. He wants to pull out, leaving some 25 million Iraqis at the mercy of Iranian-supported Shiite extremists and al Qaeda in Iraq. By his own admission, this could mean our troops would have to go back to Iraq. Crisis scenario number three.

After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence – the kind of response that would only encourage Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine next. That would be crisis scenario number four.

But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. Let’s call that crisis scenario number five.

The real problem is that these warnings from Joe Biden are similar to his earlier assessment of Barack Obama. It wasn’t so long ago that he said Barack Obama wasn’t up to the job, and that, quote, “the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”
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Wowzers- you are man enough to admit that you are afraid of the guy from the other party and his effect on your party.

That must take some real guts. Then again, Richard Simmons is man enough to wear spandex on national tv. I think that may actually take more guts than your "brave" statement.

Let's try to map out where your statement ranks on a list of manly statements:




As you can see, your statement ranks slightly more manly than "The Jonas Brothers are coming in concert!!!", but is a bit less manly than saying "Don't the Utes look fabulous in red?"

I think you can do better.
Apparently, you can't do better.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:51 PM   #30
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The WSJ had a good editorial the other day detailing life under an Obama administration with a liberal "supermajority" in Congress, ala 1933 or 1965. In short:

1. Medicare for all
2. Punitive, anti-business climate
3. Union supremacy, including card checks
4. Higher taxes
5. The green revolution
6. Curtailing of free speech
7. Voting rights "reform" to ensure larger Democrat voter base
8. Special interest potpourri

And yet inexplicably, it appears this is what America wants. I watched a post-debate clip on CNN last week where some reporter sat with a family who'd been foreclosed on as they watched the debate. The only thing Mom and Pop were interested in was which candidate promised the biggest handout to them. They were leaning Obama, but were impressed with McCain's crappy "buy up foreclosed mortgages" plan. What a crock. The nation's founder are spinning in their graves.

Meanwhile we have Colin Powell, one-time bete noire of the Angry Left for enabling The Big Lie, now lauded for seeing the light. It only took him 18 months to make up his mind, and big shocker: his vote is racially motivated.

But there's still a few reasons to hope. Joe the Plumber finally gets an honest answer out of Obama--3 cheers for socialist income redistribution!--and his foolish campaign and sycophantic media go after the guy, digging up tax records and genealogy. Hilarious panic.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden gift wraps Obama's inexperience to the Republicans by reminding the electorate why they are wary of him: "The rest of the world doesn't think Obama's got the mettle, why should Americans?" What Biden really guaranteed is that the few nervous Americans to whom national security still matters will take a second look at this guy who has no clue what he's doing.

And the polls have tightened a little too. Interesting stuff.
Good summary, good editorial. Exactly right. What I've been saying. If you like federal reguation, protectionism, lack of engagement with the world, abdication of worldwide responsiblity, etc., vote Obama. I think Obama has a lot of good attributes personally, good temperment, great life story. But vote for him with eyes wide open as to what he stands for substantively. And there won't be much to stop him implementing his centrist, isolationist and protectionist agenda, about which he's been very transparent.
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