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il Padrino Ute · 11-24-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by creekster

I was fully prepared to side with the cop on this one, as I had wathced the weenie that was arrested on CNN and thought he came across like a whiny pansy. Viewing this video, however, and putting asisde the techinical issues, I am shocked by how quickly this cop tasers the driver. THe driver is a jerk and seems to think he is in a trial instead of on the side of the road talking to a cop with an attitutde, but even so, he got tasered very quickly, with very little provocation. This cop needs some more training.

Btw, what was thisa stupid driver thikning? DId he think that belligerent non-ccoperation would persuade the cop that he shouldn't hand out a ticket? What did he think he could achieve by his behavoir? THe driver needs some common snese.

One of the regular posters on utefans is a cop (he goes by Officer Swoop). He posted the video there and titled it something like "When an attitude meets a bigger attitude with a badge."

He thought the cop handled it poorly as well.

Lesson learned for me: It's just best to comply with what the cop requests so he won't have a reason to taser me.

CrazyHorse · 11-24-2007, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Venkman

Question for lawyers: was the officer's search of the vehicle legal? It looked illegal to me.

Cops can search incident to an arrest.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s010.htm

I'm not a lawyer.

SoCalCoug · 11-24-2007, 04:49 PM

Alhtough I don't deal a lot with cops, my partner handles police misconduct cases; needless to say, I don't have any sort of blind reverence for cops. I thought the driver was asking for it. You don't turn your back on a cop asking you to put your hands behind your back. He was ignoring the cop, walking back to the car - once he reaches the car, who knows what he's going to do?

I'm okay with the cop tasering a whiner like that guy. He's probably a Ute, anyway.

il Padrino Ute · 11-24-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

Alhtough I don't deal a lot with cops, my partner handles police misconduct cases; needless to say, I don't have any sort of blind reverence for cops. I thought the driver was asking for it. You don't turn your back on a cop asking you to put your hands behind your back. He was ignoring the cop, walking back to the car - once he reaches the car, who knows what he's going to do?

I'm okay with the cop tasering a whiner like that guy. He's probably a Ute, anyway.

Notice he's driving a mini-van. That increases the odds of him being a Y fan exponentially.

Colly Wolly · 11-24-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Notice he's driving a mini-van. That increases the odds of him being a Y fan exponentially.

Looks like a Durango to me.

il Padrino Ute · 11-24-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Looks like a Durango to me.

I looked again and you are right. It is a Durango.

He may very well be a Ute.

Venkman · 11-25-2007, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I looked again and you are right. It is a Durango.

He may very well be a Ute.

But no goatee. Hmmm, this is a tough one.

woot · 11-25-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Venkman

But no goatee. Hmmm, this is a tough one.

He was clean-shaven, well-spoken, and a bit "gentle" on CNN, so that tells me Y fan.

Sleeping in EQ · 11-26-2007, 04:28 PM

The citizen wasn't following instructions, but the cop flipped out.

I agree with those who've said that it seems like the cop wanted to use his taser. It wouldn't bother me in the least if he lost his job.

smokymountainrain · 11-26-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

The citizen wasn't following instructions, but the cop flipped out.

I agree with those who've said that it seems like the cop wanted to use his taser. It wouldn't bother me in the least if he lost his job.

it doesn't bother me in the least the guy got tasered. he deserved it.

I'm not going to comment on whether the cop was right or wrong, because without walking in his dangerous shoes everyday, it's hard for me to make a judgement. But I have walked in the driver's shoes and I chose not to act like a dickhead. And I didn't get tasered. Funny how that works.

11-24-2007, 04:49 PM	#3
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	Alhtough I don't deal a lot with cops, my partner handles police misconduct cases; needless to say, I don't have any sort of blind reverence for cops. I thought the driver was asking for it. You don't turn your back on a cop asking you to put your hands behind your back. He was ignoring the cop, walking back to the car - once he reaches the car, who knows what he's going to do? I'm okay with the cop tasering a whiner like that guy. He's probably a Ute, anyway. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

11-26-2007, 04:28 PM	#9
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	The citizen wasn't following instructions, but the cop flipped out. I agree with those who've said that it seems like the cop wanted to use his taser. It wouldn't bother me in the least if he lost his job. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.