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Old 07-23-2007, 04:46 PM   #21
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And the Unabomber went to Harvard. So what?
No he went to Michigan....
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:49 PM   #22
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No he went to Michigan....
Harvard, Michigan and Cal-Berkeley. No one could remain in their right mind after that trifecta.

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Old 07-23-2007, 04:55 PM   #23
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But that's not a very good article.

He should be able to do better than that.
It was meant to be a religious article directed to a lay LDS audience, not an academic piece. What specifically do you take issue with?
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:57 PM   #24
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"Given where these pretenders were educated it's clear they received a heavy dose of Greece being the unbroken line from antiquity through ancient Rome and to modernity, and ultimately what REDEEMED us from darkness, not what led us to it."
SU categorically rejects anything having to do with God having a church or giving any authority to it. So naturally from that perspective there can be no such thing as an apostasy. IOW, nothing really to see here, folks.

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Old 07-23-2007, 05:10 PM   #25
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It was meant to be a religious article directed to a lay LDS audience, not an academic piece. What specifically do you take issue with?
Speaks volumes. So if it's for LDS audience consumption it's okay to be anti-historical, lunatic fringe rhetoric, really just complete garbage.

Any educated LDS ought to embarrassed by Dr. Ronbinson's definition of Great and Abominable Church. Given all the sophistry I've read about that passage from educated LDS, I'm sure most would be.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:11 PM   #26
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Speaks volumes. So if it's for LDS audience consumption it's okay to be anti-historical, lunatic fringe rhetoric, really just complete garbage.

Any educated LDS ought to embarrassed by Dr. Ronbinson's definition of Great and Abominable Church. Given all the sophistry I've read about that passage from educated LDS, I'm sure most would be.
So what's your definition?
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SU categorically rejects anything having to do with God having a church or giving any authority to it. So naturally from that perspective there can be no such thing as an apostasy. IOW, nothing really to see here, folks.
I believe the ancient Greeks had an encounter with God. I'm less sure about Joseph Smith.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:12 PM   #28
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So what's your definition?
Can't you tell I'm delighted with Dr. Robinson's definition? Let's stick with that.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:13 PM   #29
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It was meant to be a religious article directed to a lay LDS audience, not an academic piece. What specifically do you take issue with?
So you distort the truth for your religious audience? That makes no sense. I'm not a biblical scholar by any means, but I know enough to know that discussion piece is pure garbage. It distorts history, as known to most, and presents a dishonest view of what happened.
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Can't you tell I'm delighted with Dr. Robinson's definition? Let's stick with that.
C'mon. Give me a quick synopsis of the truth.
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