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SoCalCoug · 08-28-2007, 02:52 AM

Why shouldn't you have confidence in Max Hall? It's not an automatic that a new starter is going to have huge problems

People are acting like this is a true freshman thrown unexpectedly into a starting role on a team with a lot of questions - because that's what we're used to in the recent past.

He's been groomed for the position for a full year. He's already redshirted a year for a Pac-10 team. He served a mini-mission, so he hasn't really been away from the game all that much.

He's playing behind one of BYU's best offensive lines in years, with a solid RB corps, and the best WR corps, as a whole, I can remember BYU having. (Austin Collie will be BYU's best WR ever).

BYU's also got a good defense.

I like the fact that Bronco gave him double the reps during the fall - that could come back to bite him if Hall gets hurt, but I think it was a good, calculated risk.

In short, it seems to me that everything's in place for Hall to succeed as a new starting QB, where so many others in the recent past have not.

This year, more than any other, I think the team can afford for Hall to make mistakes, as long as he also makes a few plays.

I don't think 2 or fewer losses is an unreasonable expectation, given the schedule, especially with TCU and Utah being so late in the year, when he will have had almost a full year's experience.

I won't slit my wrists if we lose 3 or 4, but I think 2 is definitely reasonable.

SoCalCoug · 09-04-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Anyone with any faith in Max Hall is either critically unaware of college football or just plain dumb.

I expect and I am convinced Max Hall will struggle.

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BYU71 · 09-04-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I am glad you said partially looney. That leaves you an out doesn't it. Just so we all know, you are on record as BYU winning 8 or less, right?

I think it is possible BYU will go 11-1 this year and I wouldn't consider them a powerhouse. If they did, some would cry and moan if we didn't get a BCS game. I wouldn't be one of them.

We play in a weak conference. We have scheduled a bottom of the rung Az. game at home. The tough teams in our weak conference are at home and we have scheduled that powerhouse from the NW, Eastern Washington at home.

I am predicting 10-2 and sticking to it. That record though by no means indicates to me we are a powerhouse. It would be evidence that the coaches are doing a better than average job and I think they will.

By the way. If our schedule were reversed, I might be elated with an 8 win season.

I wonder how long it will take for more and more to jump on the 10-2 bandwaggon and forget they weren't there all along.

jay santos · 09-04-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I wonder how long it will take for more and more to jump on the 10-2 bandwaggon and forget they weren't there all along.

I'm there.

Indy Coug · 09-04-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I wonder how long it will take for more and more to jump on the 10-2 bandwaggon and forget they weren't there all along.

I'm not big on preseason W-L predictions, but I did make the comment on CG that an average coach should be able to roll out of bed and get 8 wins with this team, so that puts me on the 9-3 or better bandwagon, I guess.

SoCalCoug · 11-17-2007, 11:16 PM

So, Goatnapper, are you happier than a clam in mud? (assuming we win one of the next two, of course).

Have we finally defined "realistic expectations" yet? Before the season, I was accused of having blue-tinted goggles on. Anyone who said that can just bite me.

JohnnyLingo · 11-17-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

So, Goatnapper, are you happier than a clam in mud? (assuming we win one of the next two, of course).

Have we finally defined "realistic expectations" yet? Before the season, I was accused of having blue-tinted goggles on. Anyone who said that can just bite me.

Good find.

Some fans just aren't happy unless they have something to worry about.

Goatnapper'96 · 11-18-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

So, Goatnapper, are you happier than a clam in mud? (assuming we win one of the next two, of course).

Have we finally defined "realistic expectations" yet? Before the season, I was accused of having blue-tinted goggles on. Anyone who said that can just bite me.

This has been one of the greatest years in years. If BYU wins the final two it will be much better than last year.

Max and this club have me sucking down a whole lot of crow.

BYU71 · 11-18-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

This has been one of the greatest years in years. If BYU wins the final two it will be much better than last year.

Max and this club have me sucking down a whole lot of crow.

Well we haven't got Utah beat yet. It will be a tough game, but the guy in this thread who kept arguing this team would win 10 looks pretty smart.

Archaea · 11-18-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Well we haven't got Utah beat yet. It will be a tough game, but the guy in this thread who kept arguing this team would win 10 looks pretty smart.

Nice smile and big boobs.

Congrats on sticking to a prediction.

Utah scares me. We're winning; Utah's throttling folks.

08-28-2007, 02:52 AM	#21
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	Why shouldn't you have confidence in Max Hall? It's not an automatic that a new starter is going to have huge problems People are acting like this is a true freshman thrown unexpectedly into a starting role on a team with a lot of questions - because that's what we're used to in the recent past. He's been groomed for the position for a full year. He's already redshirted a year for a Pac-10 team. He served a mini-mission, so he hasn't really been away from the game all that much. He's playing behind one of BYU's best offensive lines in years, with a solid RB corps, and the best WR corps, as a whole, I can remember BYU having. (Austin Collie will be BYU's best WR ever). BYU's also got a good defense. I like the fact that Bronco gave him double the reps during the fall - that could come back to bite him if Hall gets hurt, but I think it was a good, calculated risk. In short, it seems to me that everything's in place for Hall to succeed as a new starting QB, where so many others in the recent past have not. This year, more than any other, I think the team can afford for Hall to make mistakes, as long as he also makes a few plays. I don't think 2 or fewer losses is an unreasonable expectation, given the schedule, especially with TCU and Utah being so late in the year, when he will have had almost a full year's experience. I won't slit my wrists if we lose 3 or 4, but I think 2 is definitely reasonable. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

11-17-2007, 11:16 PM	#26
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	So, Goatnapper, are you happier than a clam in mud? (assuming we win one of the next two, of course). Have we finally defined "realistic expectations" yet? Before the season, I was accused of having blue-tinted goggles on. Anyone who said that can just bite me. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug