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View Poll Results: How much will McCain lose by?
1% or less. 2 11.11%
2-5% 2 11.11%
5-10% 7 38.89%
10% or more. 4 22.22%
I am in denial. 3 16.67%
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:11 PM   #21
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You do realize that in 1984, hallowed be that year, Mondale carrried only Minnesota and the District of Columbia, don't you?
But Mondale won my elementary school mock election.

And I think McCain wouldn't win more than a couple of states with fewer combined electoral votes than MN (Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho).
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:38 PM   #22
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2006 was a rejection of Republicans by Republicans. Had more R's turned out to vote for their man, Nancy and Harry would still be in the minority. While I detest the idea of Speaker Pelosi and President Hillary (or President McCain, for that matter), these things go in cycles. I have no doubt we'll rediscover our conservative footing after a setback or two.
Tex is right. The self-satisfied Republican leadership turned away from the 1994 Contract and the conservative electorate gave them a wake-up call in 2006.

How can a true leader in the White House go 6 years without exercising a single veto? What a disgrace.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:37 PM   #23
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Evidence that a man's historical perspective begins with the day he was born.
No kidding.

Wait! scratch that. He's the same age as me.

Hey, Sooner, haven't you ever heard "Don't blame me - I'm from Massachusetts"? Nixon won the Electoral vote 520-17 or something like that. Mass was the only state he didn't win.
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NM, NV, CO, LA, MO, OH and FL
Except for Florida (I don't see Obama being able to compete against the nursing home vote), those are the states I see as most likely to turn blue. I'd be surprised if he could turn *all* of them blue, though. A Richardson VP would go a long way in NM-NV-CO, though.

You guys may be underestimating the extent to which some of Obama's statements are going to be used against him. He's going to be portrayed as the naive inexperienced ultra-liberal unAmerican anti-war surrenderist, running against the ultimate American war hero. Did you know Obama's campaign office in Houston was flying a Communist flag last week? The GOP will bring this stuff out. it's going to get ugly.

I do think Obama will win. I just doubt it will be a blowout. I could certainly be wrong. I never in a million years, for example, would have thought McCain could come back to win the nomination.
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Except for Florida (I don't see Obama being able to compete against the nursing home vote), those are the states I see as most likely to turn blue. I'd be surprised if he could turn *all* of them blue, though. A Richardson VP would go a long way in NM-NV-CO, though.

You guys may be underestimating the extent to which some of Obama's statements are going to be used against him. He's going to be portrayed as the naive inexperienced ultra-liberal unAmerican anti-war surrenderist, running against the ultimate American war hero. Did you know Obama's campaign office in Houston was flying a Communist flag last week? The GOP will bring this stuff out. it's going to get ugly.

I do think Obama will win. I just doubt it will be a blowout. I could certainly be wrong. I never in a million years, for example, would have thought McCain could come back to win the nomination.
I think it's a crap shoot, with slight odds to Obama right now just because of all the buzz. Looking at the electoral map from the last two elections, it's as if we have two Americas. I don't see how Obama bridges the gap to make significant inroads into RedState America. He's simply too liberal, too inexperienced, and sad to say, a black man with a Muslim name.

The afternoon guy on the most popular talk radio station here calls him Barrack "Hussein" Obama and regularly fields calls from people restating those silly rumors about madrasas and Obama turning his back to the flag. He quickly dispells those rumors and ridiculous, but that sticks with people nonetheless.

I have a question on LA. How is that one in play? General dissatisfaction with Katrina? I'd always thought that LA, along with Northern Idaho, were the last bastions of fairly open white supremacy. Perhaps RC can help out on this.
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Except for Florida (I don't see Obama being able to compete against the nursing home vote), those are the states I see as most likely to turn blue. I'd be surprised if he could turn *all* of them blue, though. A Richardson VP would go a long way in NM-NV-CO, though.

You guys may be underestimating the extent to which some of Obama's statements are going to be used against him. He's going to be portrayed as the naive inexperienced ultra-liberal unAmerican anti-war surrenderist, running against the ultimate American war hero. Did you know Obama's campaign office in Houston was flying a Communist flag last week? The GOP will bring this stuff out. it's going to get ugly.

I do think Obama will win. I just doubt it will be a blowout. I could certainly be wrong. I never in a million years, for example, would have thought McCain could come back to win the nomination.
I'm no Obama supporter (ha!) but in the interest of full disclosure ... I believe the office hanging the Che flag (indoors, not outdoors) was a supporters' office, not an official campaign office.
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No kidding.

Wait! scratch that. He's the same age as me.

Hey, Sooner, haven't you ever heard "Don't blame me - I'm from Massachusetts"? Nixon won the Electoral vote 520-17 or something like that. Mass was the only state he didn't win.
You're not a man. So you get a pass. Women remember everything.
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Except for Florida (I don't see Obama being able to compete against the nursing home vote), those are the states I see as most likely to turn blue. I'd be surprised if he could turn *all* of them blue, though. A Richardson VP would go a long way in NM-NV-CO, though.

You guys may be underestimating the extent to which some of Obama's statements are going to be used against him. He's going to be portrayed as the naive inexperienced ultra-liberal unAmerican anti-war surrenderist, running against the ultimate American war hero. Did you know Obama's campaign office in Houston was flying a Communist flag last week? The GOP will bring this stuff out. it's going to get ugly.

I do think Obama will win. I just doubt it will be a blowout. I could certainly be wrong. I never in a million years, for example, would have thought McCain could come back to win the nomination.
You make a good point that my dear Whole Foods shopping, latte swilling Democratic friends ignore in their fervent support of Obama. Obama has not been through the ringer yet and has not had his negatives greatly exposed. His negatives can only go up when the public starts to realize what they have bought.
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