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P.S. God did forbid Nephi to write down his vision that was also recorded by John the Beloved in Revelation, so I'll concede that book has value too.[/QUOTE]
Scholars as early as the 3rd century knew that John the Beloved did not write Revelation. And if you read Greek it is equally obvious. I don't even know how Revelation made it into the canon. That was nigh unto a miracle itself. That's a Book of Mormon "oops". |
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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/14/27#24
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/77 Was Joseph Smith really that clueless? |
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What demonstrable improvements does the Bible provide over the other standard works, as they pertain specifically to the Doctrines of Salvation?
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Those who canonized Revelation were the ones that got it wrong first. Of course it could have been written by a different John. It doesn't claim to be written by one of Jesus' disciples. Last edited by Chapel-Hill-Coug; 01-23-2007 at 07:58 PM. Reason: addition to text. |
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However, given that the mind of God is difficult to comprehend in all its ways, any information we have concerning God's dealings with humanity is useful, IMHO.
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Scholars as early as the 3rd century knew that John the Beloved did not write Revelation. And if you read Greek it is equally obvious. I don't even know how Revelation made it into the canon. That was nigh unto a miracle itself. That's a Book of Mormon "oops".[/QUOTE] I agree with this. It's "apocalyptic literature," written pseudonymously, like the apocalyses of Paul and Peter and the Secret Book of John. I find the arguments that it's describing Christian persecution under Domitian and Nero quite persuasive.
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However, I have another reason, perhaps non religioiusly related. Much of our Western literature has references tied to the Bible. A person would end up uneducated if one ignored it. Even my atheist Math prof in high school, finally broke down and read it, declaring, "even though I don't believe, I don't want to be ignorant of an important part of our culture." Which reminds me of a cartoon at Oxford. Atheist to priest: "Is it okay if I don't stand during mass?" Priest: "It's okay by me, but people will think you don't understand Latin."
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I suppose with a living prophet, all scripture could be potentially doctrinally redundant. Is the BoM doctrinally redundant? I love the New Testament. I think the LDS view is and should be equally Bible-friendly as Catholics or Christians are. |
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Joseph's theology doesn't become otherwise until the late 1830s when his view of the godhead starts changing. I guess he remembered his vision then or something, I don't know. Until then it was very protestant and very biblical. |
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