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You've got almost 3 times as many as I do, and I'm a lawyer. What are you trying to say?
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I should also add that we legal types are trained to think that words matter. Where as others might say "well we all know what they meant", the lawyers will be reluctant to make assumptions about meaning if the words used aren't clear. I tend to agree that you can over analyze these things, but words do matter.
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I'm simply saying that while it's true "words do matter," they also have multiple meanings, contexts, and interpretations. Otherwise, whereto the entire legal profession? TripletDaddy just selected those that fit his preconceived notion.
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For me, I don't know how to resolve the paradox that some people seem to be biologically gay and that our best answer for them is that they just don't get to have the very most gratifying and important experiences in life that the rest of us get. I said the other day, and meant very sincerely, that I hope that the brethren are inquiring of the Lord as to how to better make a place for them among us. My heart tells me that the current answer is just too cruel to be a complete answer, but perhaps I am wrong. In any case, I do applaud DDD for his thoughts on this. I don't think many are looking to stick a finger in the church's eye on this. I sense some real compassion motivating many on this issue.
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Not sure what Tex's tone was, nor does it matter. I stated clearly that I would welcome all feedback, including derision...or in Tex's case, skepticism of my intent. A few weeks ago, Steel mentioned how this issue is going to affect the lives of California LDS in a slightly different way.....because this is hapening in our own backyard and many of us have close friends or relatives that are gay. After this past weekend, I am feeling the weight of Steel's predictions. Honestly guys, I am not ready to support this measure. I guess part of me is struggling with whether that makes me a bad Church member? I love the Church (as I know many/most here do....and some do not and that is quite fine, as well). I really have no complaints thus far with my membership. But for the first time in my adult life, I feel a bit of the "wrestle with the Lord" that Enos experienced. And the more I think about it, the muddier the waters become. In the words of Mick, "I can't get no satisfaction." I can say this much....I am resolved to follow the words of the Prophet on this issue....GBH was correct when he admonished us to Stand for Something. I feel like I do need to Stand for Something on this issue. Hopefully I dont burn in hell for standing up, though....
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And Tex has about twice as many as I do.
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