Is homosexuality a sin?

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

I'd do your Avatar.

Ironically she is gay.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Surfah

Ironically she is gay.

I'm a lesbian stuck in a man's body, so her and I have at least one thing in common.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by A-Train

That is not a Russian proverb but attributed to Benjamin Franklin, explaining why to take an older woman to bed

Not a perfect source, but .....

http://www.friends-partners.org/oldf...-proverbs.html

Note proverb 6.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm not sure the church has a teaching specific to homosexual impulses. I think the doctrine is more general: that the impulses are temptation to sin and that the atonement is strong enough to overcome all temptation.

It's quite possible there are some temptations we must struggle with our lifelong. Homosexuality is not the only sinful desire people fight, but it seems to be the only one folks are interested in normalizing.

Are we taking this too far?

Do we take the thoughts precede the action beyond its natural conclusions and beyond its pedagogical purpose?

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by Surfah

So, homosexual desires are okay but a heterosexual can commit adultery in his heart and the sin be just as actionable as the literal act?

I don't think anyone actually believes thinking about sin is the same thing as doing it. I doubt even the yes men on the board think that way.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I don't think anyone actually believes thinking about sin is the same thing as doing it. I doubt even the yes men on the board think that way.

holy mindmeld, batman!

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

holy mindmeld, batman!

I'm starting to wonder if I am you or you are me. Quick, what am I thinking?

[cougarobgon]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I don't think anyone actually believes thinking about sin is the same thing as doing it. I doubt even the yes men on the board think that way.

29 And finally, I cannot tell you all the things whereby ye may commit sin; for there are divers ways and means, even so many that I cannot number them.
30 But this much I can tell you, that if ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, and observe the commandments of God, and continue in the faith of what ye have heard concerning the coming of our Lord, even unto the end of your lives, ye must perish. And now, O man, remember, and perish not. (Moshiah 4:29-30)

I believe that when we get to the other side, many of us are going to be pleasently surprised how merciful God is going to be with us. I do not believe that thoughts and actions are on the same level of "unrighteousness". However, continously entertaining "unrighteous" thoughts can lead an individual to commit that action, hence, the warning from the Lord "watch your thoughts". Personally, the consequences of entertaining "unrighteous thoughts" prevents me from fully experiencing the influence of the Spirit in my life.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Surfah

So, homosexual desires are okay but a heterosexual can commit adultery in his heart and the sin be just as actionable as the literal act?

Let's be a little more precise with our language. From a scriptural perspective, we are judged for the desires of our hearts as well as our deeds. I think it was Bednar who just spoke last conference of the difference between having clean hands, and having a pure heart.

If someone has homosexual desires, it is incumbent upon him to seek the help of the atonement in overcoming and/or controlling them. I don't think anyone in the church is saying "let those gay desires run wild--just don't act on them."

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by Tex

Let's be a little more precise with our language. From a scriptural perspective, we are judged for the desires of our hearts as well as our deeds. I think it was Bednar who just spoke last conference of the difference between having clean hands, and having a pure heart.

If someone has homosexual desires, it is incumbent upon him to seek the help of the atonement in overcoming and/or controlling them. I don't think anyone in the church is saying "let those gay desires run wild--just don't act on them."

I stand corrected. Apparently, the yes men do think this way.