10-28-2006, 02:48 AM | #21 | |
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10-28-2006, 03:47 AM | #22 | |
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While it is a huge mistake for psychologists to prescribe, you better believe I will be the first person in line to get it. The profession will become two-tiered and those who can't prescribe will become irrelevant. At that point it becomes about being able to make a decent living.
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10-28-2006, 12:40 PM | #23 |
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Reading this post makes me thank the Lord that I am surgeon! I would rather have sharp objects shoved into my eyeballs and blood pouring out my ass than do what you guys do.
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10-28-2006, 02:17 PM | #24 | |
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I think if the floodgates opened, you would see a lot fewer people going into psychiatry. You would have largely foreigners and the dregs of US medical schools. At least until an equilibrium is established. I think that means that overall, mental healthcare suffers. Psychiatrists should punish states that adopt this. By leaving. States that value psychiatrists will not follow. It will only make the poor poorer. It's not like New Mexico and Louisiana are known for their vibrant medical scene. If you wanted to Danimal, you could move to Louisana and New Mexico, poised to move to the first liveable state that also allowed psychologists to prescribe. Another point. In some practices psychologists work with MD's, and the psychologist prescribes. Meaning that the psychologist says take this medicine, and the MD signs off on it, without even seeing the patient. I think this is unethical, and I would advise any patient in this situation to find a new provider. I know someone who saw a psychologist for depression in such a practice. She was told she was probably having seizures, a MRI was suggested, and the psychologist prescribed medicine. Run like hell from these people!!! |
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10-28-2006, 02:18 PM | #25 |
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I wouldn't count out this scenario in your current job. If you make it to Iraq and google maps has given you the wrong directions.
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10-28-2006, 02:19 PM | #26 |
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As if mental health care doesn't have enough problems without psychologists prescribing. Wow. I've fought locally that turf battle but it appears the psychiatrists will lose medication management. I'm sorry to hear that.
We will become nothing but a bunch of medicated zombies. Great, next thing you know, chiropractors will start orthopedic surgery.
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10-28-2006, 03:29 PM | #27 | |
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10-28-2006, 03:50 PM | #28 |
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I looked up New Mexico, and I guess it's about 1 years worth of courses.
In other words, 1/8th training of a MD psychiatrist. I agree with the notion that if a psychologist wants to prescribe, he/she should pursue NP, PA, or MD. PA can be as little as 2 years. PAs are whole nother ball of wax. I wouldn't see a PA in place of a psychiatrist. But I'm sort of a snob. When I went to the plastic surgeon, I became very concerned that I might end up seeing their PA (for small cyst). Luckily I didn't. If the PA wants to tell me that my wound isn't infected, and put a bandaid on me, that's fine. But manage something complex? No thanks. Granted, there are probably PAs out there that are better than many of the worst MDs. I'm just wary of watering down the training to the degree that we end up teaching medicine at Devry and trucker schools. |
10-28-2006, 04:02 PM | #29 | |
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10-28-2006, 04:34 PM | #30 | |
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I agree with you on every other thing you've said though. A large part of my dissertation research focused on this very topic, RxP as they call it for psychology. I've read or perused countless arguments, articles, studies, etc on the topic, and I have the same opinion now that I did before I knew much about it. It's just a bad idea, and the implications on both applied and philosophical levels for my discipline are quite disconcerting to me. Thankfully, I disagree with Danimal on one point--this won't make non-prescribing psychologists irrelevant, simply because there are so many psychologists who either agree strongly with me, or who have no interest in going through the hassle to get that privilege. I don't think the numbers of psychologists pursuing this privilege will actually be all that high, at least not for a long time.
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