This surprises me re: Obama

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why should it surprise you that a kid with an absent African father (not an African-American father), who bascially grew up among whites, has a weird Muslim name, and doesn't have any particular affiliation or collaboration with traditional black power bases is not particularly appealing to African-Americans?

A lot of times its whites that like to put labels on people. Is Tiger Woods black? He doesnt consider himself black.

Good point about Obama. Hell, even Karl Malone was not very accepted by the black community.

Tiger is interesting in that he considers himself whatever is best for him in any given time. His mother being I believe Thai, is what got him into a tournament many years ago that was for Thais only. That said, he is a great golfer and that is how I personally view him, though he did tell me when I was one of those fishing on the Green River with him that he was happy that Jim Thorpe had already broken the color barrier before Tiger came along.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Venkman

Although he's very liberal, his tone is different. Doesn't seem to play the blacks as victims card. Talks about personal responsibility and stuff. This goes against everything many in the black community have been taught for 40 years, and many don't want to hear it.

Bingo

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Bingo

I hate to disrupt the KKK high-fiving, but just maybe, a majority of Blacks vote for who and what is in the interest and both them and their country.

I know, radical thought.

[Detroitdad]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I hate to disrupt the KKK high-fiving, but just maybe, a majority of Blacks vote for who and what is in the interest and both them and their country.

I know, radical thought.

Man, you beat me to the punch. I don't know much about either Venkman or the Rock and their experience with black folks, but I can just say that my experience is quite opposite. As much as one's experience has any relevance in either proving or disproving a stereotype I have found it to be far from the truth.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I hadn't heard that he trails Clinton in polls of black voters. He trails big. I know it's early and this stuff doesn't much matter but it still surprised me. Lots of interesting stats in this link.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/...ote/index.html

1. Bill Clinton was the first black president.

2. Obama is not black enough.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I hate to disrupt the KKK high-fiving, but just maybe, a majority of Blacks vote for who and what is in the interest and both them and their country.

I know, radical thought.

I didn't say all or even most, but many. Not to say racism doesn't exist, but the victim mentality is very strong for many in the black community. I've been told this by a couple of black coworkers I used to work with. Some prominent blacks, like Bill Cosby, have expressed similar sentiments.

Oh, and kiss my ass.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why should it surprise you that a kid with an absent African father (not an African-American father), who bascially grew up among whites, has a weird Muslim name, and doesn't have any particular affiliation or collaboration with traditional black power bases is not particularly appealing to African-Americans?

It surprised me because I know very little about the man except that he is very popular. I don't know anything about his father or mother. I had just assumed that he was likely to be as popular among black democrats as he seems to be among white democrats. As Barbara pointed out, this appears to be happening.

[SoCalCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Is Tiger Woods black? He doesnt consider himself black.

Of course he is. He likes white women.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB7tClTaQbg

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I hate to disrupt the KKK high-fiving, but just maybe, a majority of Blacks vote for who and what is in the interest and both them and their country.

I know, radical thought.

Racist.