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Old 04-24-2009, 02:17 PM   #11
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The slow economy has forced many to leave anyway. I read the other day that they estimate the level of illegal immigration to be lower today than it has been for decades. I say let the economy decide what the appropriate amount of immigration is. Any time the government tries to centrally plan an aspect of the economy it usually fails. Ask the Soviet Union about that. Funny how republicans pretend to be pro-free market when they really are anti-market when it comes to certain things like immigration.
sorry, you are smoking weed if you think this is a free-market system.

many come to America and make $6 an hour, but they also get free healthcare and free education.

Who pays for that?

This is merely a transfer of wealth to the wealthy, who benefit from cheap labor, which holds down wages for Americans, while entitlements are used to subsidize their presence.

Look at the economic impact of illegals in Dallas. What % of hispanic kids in Dallas have illegal parents? What is the economic cost of white-flight as a result?
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sorry, you are smoking weed if you think this is a free-market system.

many come to America and make $6 an hour, but they also get free healthcare and free education.

Who pays for that?

This is merely a transfer of wealth to the wealthy, who benefit from cheap labor, which holds down wages for Americans, while entitlements are used to subsidize their presence.

Look at the economic impact of illegals in Dallas. What % of hispanic kids in Dallas have illegal parents? What is the economic cost of white-flight as a result?
I'm well aware the system we have is not a pure free market. I'm arguing it should be more free market than it is. These problems you cite are not caused by illegal immigration. They are things they should fix regardless. Blaming illegals for a welfare system that is a failure is a stupid game played by supposed "conservatives." Part of the problem is that illegals aren't allowed to flourish because of their status. If they could be legal they would try to progress up the social ladder like most people. In fact, better than most people because unlike some who were born here and are sitting on their butts, illegals have already taken the initiative to go to a foreign country to try to do something to improve their lot in life. You can't say that for many of those who were born here. Count yourself as one of the "rich" who benefits. You could be paying twice as much for food or to get work done on your house. Besides, you couldn't keep blue collar wages down for very long because immigrant laborers want to improve their situation as much as anyone and won't be willing to work for less for very long if they had more options. Right now they don't have a lot of options, so they're stuck doing the unskilled labor for low wages. If you have a problem with entitlements, then rather than blame illegals, who are not the ones taking those as much as the the natives are anyway, eliminate the entitlements.
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