Cali, maybe you got your wish

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Travis Henry

I learned a small lesson during the whole Crowton era at BYU and through the sentiments of folks on CB. There were the pro-Crowton people and the anti-Crowton people. The pro-Crowton people didn't care so much about the health of the football program, they just wanted Crowton to do well enough to keep his job. Pretty soon, they were trying to talk people into thinking that a 6-5 season in the 2004 season with "all of the youth and inexperience" would mean Crowton was some young Joe Paterno.

A 6-5 season was still mediocre in the Mountain West and didn't prove a damn thing of course. It would only mean that BYU was young and inexperienced for three years in a row. So basically it got to the point where Pro-Crowton people would rather feel that they were right and accept the accompanying mediocrity than support the action that needed to be done- get rid of Crowton and make a go at it with another coach. Formerly optimistic fans turned into "realist" fans that resigned themselves to the fact that BYU just really wasn't meant to be good in today's game and LaVell's success between the late 70s to the mid 90s was just an aberation. And all because of their undying support of Crowton produced out of endless argument on an internet message board. They dug in their heels and they wanted to be right at all costs.

So suppose you've been sudduced by the University idealism that Obama represents. Obama is then exposed as all hat and no cattle by a combination of gaffes, hubris and an effective GOP campaign against him. There's no legislative achievement, no indication that he'll "clean house" which is so badly needed, and his only qualifications appear to be that he was the editor for the Harvard Law Review and that he's damned good with a teleprompter. Worse yet, Obama has ties to the type of people that represent both corruption and the type of radicalism that will be bad for this country. If these ideas were implemented it would be possibly extremely damaging for this country.

The "flyover" people, the bedrock morality compass of this country (and I'm not talking about social values, I'm talking about basic values of how to honestly run a business, government, etc) start worrying about the charismatic man with the teleprompter. He seems like an elitist, and they don't like elitists. All of a sudden McCain rises from the ashes in a year that should be a grand slam for the Democrats due to the complete cluster**** that has been the Bush Presidency.

A financial disaster on Wall Street, the scope of which has maybe been seen only once since the Great Depression occurs. It will undeniably be a bump for your guy. The economy may be in shambles, for years perhaps, but you're right on Obama and he wins. The greater good suffers and it vaults your guy into office- but your guy has won and you're right and that is of paramount importance. He appears to be Jimmy Carte version 2.0, but who the hell cares, it's fun to be on the side of a winner.

I was getting 12% interest on my CD's. I would love those days again. My kids have their low interest mortgages. Our house is paid off and no debts. It's time we got rewarded for being prudent. Give us those high interest rates, pahlease. Pretty please. Oh, and now it's much easier to find a contractor to build a house. Cost of building has gone down about 15% since last year. Booyah!

And over time we'll have fewer Democrats......because they will continue to abort at record numbers. Sounds like a great solution. Where in the 'pride' cycle would that put us?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You are a POS.

Are you upset, Cali, with Obama for his blatant distortion of Limbaugh quotations in his new Spanish immigration ad?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I don't think the ad distorted Limbaugh's statements at all. He has expressed a very clear disdain for immigrants for years now. The ad does tie McCain to Limbaugh, which isn't fair. I don't think Obama needs to do it to win, so I wish he wouldn't. But if you are trying to make this a debate about which politician has walked on the high ground more than the other, you will lose (so please do). What does this have to do with this thread? Are you so excited to have a debate you know you will lose that you want to start the debate here?

No, I don't think either politician has walked the high ground. You're the one who wanted the contest.

And those Limbaugh quotes were taken out of context. Badly. Apparently you haven't done your research.

My apologies to SU for the hijack.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

No, I don't think either politician has walked the high ground. You're the one who wanted the contest.

And those Limbaugh quotes were taken out of context. Badly. Apparently you haven't done your research.

My apologies to SU for the hijack.

LOL. Yes, for heaven's sake. Let's not hijack this thoughtful discussion.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I have done the research. I read the quotes in their entirety. Do you honestly feel they don't represent Limbaugh's beliefs?

The ad is unfair in tying McCain to Limbaugh. I will happily stack up Obama's character in running this election against McCain's anytime. You won't (for good reason).

Character in politicians? Cali you crack me up. I'm dying.

You are such the troll, but boy you toss some doozies out there.

I finally figured it out. You work for the Obama campaign and get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do his work. Delightful. How much "change" makes it to your pocket doing his work?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

SU, maybe you got your wish. You can finally come out of the closet with this election.

For years, you have repressed your most sacred inner-beliefs, a knowledge that creationism is real, that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, that evolution never occurred. You have feigned a love for science and progress, even stooping so low as to praise literature and the classics when internally, all you wanted to do was to see all books banned other than the Book of Mormon. Your pride got in the way of your true feelings.

Now, Romney has rekindled your love of Mormonism. You saw him assaulted, and you reacted, bursting forth with a passion and energy you have never before experienced. You are now free to express your love of Palin, the perfect icon for your inner-soul.

Finally, in Palin, you have someone who appreciates creationism and despises science. Someone who hates librarians as much as you do for their love of books and creativity and who desires to burn those books that would challenge Christian doctrine. You have lashed out at Babs in righteous indignation for her selection of the most vile of all professions. And best of all, you have the opportunity to once again do all in your power to beat down the progress of African Americans by fighting Obama, something you have been longing to do ever since you spent 2 years of your life working your hardest to spread a message of intolerance and hatred for blacks, despite your mission president's urgings to preach love for your fellow man.

You are a POS.

You don't believe in creationism? What kind of a Mormon are you? Have you been to the temple? Have you read the Book of Abraham? I think being a democrat is like porn for devout Mormons. A pitiful outlet.

You're an unadulterated POS.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

LOL. Yes, for heaven's sake. Let's not hijack this thoughtful discussion.

I haven't read such great comedy in a while.

Watching Cali and SU go at it, is great sport. Go Hoyas!

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I have done the research. I read the quotes in their entirety. Do you honestly feel they don't represent Limbaugh's beliefs?

If you're asking the question, you didn't understand the quotes. Talk about unsurprising.

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

The ad is unfair in tying McCain to Limbaugh. I will happily stack up Obama's character in running this election against McCain's anytime. You won't (for good reason).

Sure, Obama is the picture of honesty, chastity, and humility. Keep on drinking the Kool-Aid.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

LOL. Yes, for heaven's sake. Let's not hijack this thoughtful discussion.

Heh.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Mine is a comparative statement, not an absolute statement. Surely you know the difference.

Mud is mud.