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Old 06-07-2008, 12:39 AM   #11
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Obama doesn't address gun control on his website because his stance would hurt him in the election:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/125180.html
Thanks IPU, according to that article quoting Obama's website, Obama doesn't believe the right to own guns (which he believes in) includes the right to use guns in self-defense.

I don't think I can get past that.
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:40 AM   #12
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Thanks IPU, according to that article quoting Obama's website, Obama doesn't believe the right to own guns (which he believes in) includes the right to use guns in self-defense.

I don't think I can get past that.
That is a dealbreaker with me on any politician.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:18 AM   #13
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Thanks IPU, according to that article quoting Obama's website, Obama doesn't believe the right to own guns (which he believes in) includes the right to use guns in self-defense.

I don't think I can get past that.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:49 AM   #14
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I hope he takes away all your guns.

I would vote for that in a heartbeat.
You do know that's the real reason Rome fell, don't you? Romulus Augustulus took away guns from the citizens and all hell broke loose.

Do you really want to see that happen to the US?
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You do know that's the real reason Rome fell, don't you? Romulus Augustulus took away guns from the citizens and all hell broke loose.

Do you really want to see that happen to the US?
Admittedly, I had forgotten that they all had guns back then.
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Admittedly, I had forgotten that they all had guns back then.
I'm impressed that you once knew it, as it's not really taught in school because the left has taken over academia on all levels.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:46 PM   #17
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Thanks IPU, according to that article quoting Obama's website, Obama doesn't believe the right to own guns (which he believes in) includes the right to use guns in self-defense.

I don't think I can get past that.
More entitlements. Reparations for blacks. Cap and trade laws. I would say we are entering a frightening time in our lives. But than again it's been prophesied.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:14 AM   #18
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I did search on his campaign document, Blueprint for Change. 60+ pages.

Words "gun" and "firearm" and "handgun" were not contained. Indicating he does not address gun control.

That's a good start for a democrat. Now he needs to make a promise that he won't institute new gun control. And I can think about voting for him.
Gun control is a third rail for democrats. Even Gore and Kerry gave lip service to gun rights. Obama will in time. The fact is, most Americans (read here people who don't live in urban environments) love their guns. Not even with both houses and the presidency under their control will democrats be dumb enough to burn their popularity on this issue.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:28 AM   #19
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Gun control is a third rail for democrats. Even Gore and Kerry gave lip service to gun rights. Obama will in time. The fact is, most Americans (read here people who don't live in urban environments) love their guns. Not even with both houses and the presidency under their control will democrats be dumb enough to burn their popularity on this issue.
I tend to agree. Dems are making huge progress in the south and west by not talking about gun control like they used to. It won't be a big part of Obama's administration, that much I assure you.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:15 AM   #20
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It won't be a big part of Obama's administration, that much I assure you.
You're an idiot to lie to yourself like that.

Obama HATES gun rights. He can't wait to take away all the guns from the law-abiding citizens, leaving them with criminals only.
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