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Flystripper · 02-26-2008, 08:07 PM

brother in law
aunt
cousin
friend from high school

woot · 02-26-2008, 08:12 PM

The closest I can claim is the brother of a friend/acquaintance.

Tex · 02-26-2008, 08:13 PM

I have a cousin (not active) who has not "come out" but about whom it is suspected. I have a few co-workers (not members) who are openly. I have two friends, one a former high councilman, one a former ward clerk, who are both quietly. Neither is active now though obviously they once were. Neither feels hostility towards the church as an organization, though they experience great frustration at the conflict between what it teaches and how they feel.

Jim Swarthout · 02-26-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why do you assume that some here wouldn't have both friend and family ?

that's a good point. No assumption made, just poor wording on my part.

splitbamboo · 02-26-2008, 08:15 PM

I was in a threesome in the MTC. I've since found out that both these companions are gay (one went home early, soon after arriving in Japan, the other came out at grad school--the U... what am I to make of that?

).

I was in the mission office with another companion and later BYU roommate who is gay. The other elder in the office was what you would stereotypically think was gay, so with what I know now, I wonder...

I feel really naive. All this around me and all I could think about was myself and how to be a decent missionary. Didn't even see it.

When I first found out about the one MTC companion last year, I thought about him EVERY day for about four months. Since then I have thought about him probably weekly. I have read tons about the issue since then. I am still trying to formulate a coherent thought around this.

This missionary was the most Christ-like person I have ever met. Today he does advocacy for battered wives. He has done an incredible amount of good. On one hand, I wish that I could be more like him. On the other hand...

Clark Addison · 02-26-2008, 08:19 PM

No real close friends, and no family (that I know of). I've had a few work for me, and I've worked with a couple of others. There are two people in particular who, though I don't consider them extremely close friends, I have worked closely with and talked to quite a bit. Yes, it has definitely impacted how I look at things. I don't have a problem with Gay Marriage, and am generally supportive of many, but not all, gay-rights issues. I haven't told my Bishop this, as he was concerned enough about me when he suspected I was a Democrat.

Oh, also one mission companion, and one MTC teacher, but I didn't know about either of those until after the fact. The companion went to BYU after his mission. I ran into him quite a bit, and was always curious how the BYU experience was for him, but never asked, as he didn't know that I knew about him.

RockyBalboa · 02-26-2008, 08:21 PM

I have a Gay White Mormon Cousin that works for Black Entertainment Television.

Jim Swarthout · 02-26-2008, 08:23 PM

My earliest experience with a gay person was with a spouse of a sibling who left the marriage after a few kids. It was a very painful experience for our family. So for a long time, my feelings toward homosexuals were particularly negative. Although recently, I have come to befriend a co-worker who is gay and find this person to be one of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met. We have this couple to our home for dinner on a regular basis.

My views on homosexuality, gay marriage, adoption, etc. have dramatically changed as a result. I wonder if people in the 50s and 60s felt this way when they befriended African Americans and realized that we're all alike.

Archaea · 02-26-2008, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC Vikings

Neither but I wouldn't really consider myself homophobic either.

And don't think utestar hasn't noticed. Y's even jealous of the attention.

Archaea · 02-26-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flystripper

brother in law
aunt
cousin
friend from high school

You don't count former roommate and lurker?

View Poll Results: Do you have gay friend(s) or family member(s)?
Friend	14	32.56%
Family	16	37.21%
None	13	30.23%
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02-26-2008, 08:13 PM	#13
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	I have a cousin (not active) who has not "come out" but about whom it is suspected. I have a few co-workers (not members) who are openly. I have two friends, one a former high councilman, one a former ward clerk, who are both quietly. Neither is active now though obviously they once were. Neither feels hostility towards the church as an organization, though they experience great frustration at the conflict between what it teaches and how they feel. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

02-26-2008, 08:21 PM	#17
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	I have a Gay White Mormon Cousin that works for Black Entertainment Television. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

02-26-2008, 08:23 PM	#18
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	My earliest experience with a gay person was with a spouse of a sibling who left the marriage after a few kids. It was a very painful experience for our family. So for a long time, my feelings toward homosexuals were particularly negative. Although recently, I have come to befriend a co-worker who is gay and find this person to be one of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met. We have this couple to our home for dinner on a regular basis. My views on homosexuality, gay marriage, adoption, etc. have dramatically changed as a result. I wonder if people in the 50s and 60s felt this way when they befriended African Americans and realized that we're all alike. __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

02-26-2008, 08:07 PM	#11
Flystripper Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Valencia CA Posts: 1,384	brother in law aunt cousin friend from high school

02-26-2008, 08:12 PM	#12
woot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,502	The closest I can claim is the brother of a friend/acquaintance.

02-26-2008, 08:15 PM	#15
splitbamboo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 144	I was in a threesome in the MTC. I've since found out that both these companions are gay (one went home early, soon after arriving in Japan, the other came out at grad school--the U... what am I to make of that? ). I was in the mission office with another companion and later BYU roommate who is gay. The other elder in the office was what you would stereotypically think was gay, so with what I know now, I wonder... I feel really naive. All this around me and all I could think about was myself and how to be a decent missionary. Didn't even see it. When I first found out about the one MTC companion last year, I thought about him EVERY day for about four months. Since then I have thought about him probably weekly. I have read tons about the issue since then. I am still trying to formulate a coherent thought around this. This missionary was the most Christ-like person I have ever met. Today he does advocacy for battered wives. He has done an incredible amount of good. On one hand, I wish that I could be more like him. On the other hand...

02-26-2008, 08:19 PM	#16
Clark Addison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 638	No real close friends, and no family (that I know of). I've had a few work for me, and I've worked with a couple of others. There are two people in particular who, though I don't consider them extremely close friends, I have worked closely with and talked to quite a bit. Yes, it has definitely impacted how I look at things. I don't have a problem with Gay Marriage, and am generally supportive of many, but not all, gay-rights issues. I haven't told my Bishop this, as he was concerned enough about me when he suspected I was a Democrat. Oh, also one mission companion, and one MTC teacher, but I didn't know about either of those until after the fact. The companion went to BYU after his mission. I ran into him quite a bit, and was always curious how the BYU experience was for him, but never asked, as he didn't know that I knew about him.