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Old 02-15-2008, 05:53 PM   #11
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Same with this new version of Apple TV but I noticed that they left out the HD during discussion of instant download times. I wonder what the HD download time is on the apple? Also interesting about Apple TV is that it was an absolute flop when version 1 came out. That it was (and still is) too expensive seems blatantly obvious to me. Once they figure this out though, it or something similar at a reasonable cost will be incredibly popular.
Would you pay a $100 joining fee for Netflix? No you wouldn't. Yet you expect people to do that for AppleTV.

Who wants to pay a big fee and then be stuck with one vendor?
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:03 PM   #12
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Would you pay a $100 joining fee for Netflix? No you wouldn't. Yet you expect people to do that for AppleTV.

Who wants to pay a big fee and then be stuck with one vendor?
You're right, $100 is still too high. I don't know what the magic number is. The thing I think Apple TV has going for it is the ease with which one can watch it on their TV. As far as I know, the other services are geared toward viewing on computer. Maybe the rental model is best; $5 or so/month for the box.
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I've been using the Netflix instant download a lot recently. Last night watched The Paper Chase, the night before watched a foreign film called Life According to Muriel that I remembered seeing at the Sundance Film Festival 10 years ago.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:16 PM   #14
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I've been using the Netflix instant download a lot recently. Last night watched The Paper Chase, the night before watched a foreign film called Life According to Muriel that I remembered seeing at the Sundance Film Festival 10 years ago.
Can you use the Netflix instant download to watch on your widescreen TV? Or are you limited to computer monitor?
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:19 PM   #15
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Can you use the Netflix instant download to watch on your widescreen TV? Or are you limited to computer monitor?
I'm sure I could; my laptop has an S-video hookup, but I've only had it for a few weeks so I haven't tried out all of its magical extras. It is a widescreen multi-media everything whatever, so watching Netflix on it has been fine with me.
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Can you use the Netflix instant download to watch on your widescreen TV? Or are you limited to computer monitor?
I could on my TV. I would just hook up my laptop to my VGA input on my DLP.

The downside of this system is I wouldn't have surround sound. I would just have stereo sound.
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I could on my TV. I would just hook up my laptop to my VGA input on my DLP.

The downside of this system is I wouldn't have surround sound. I would just have stereo sound.

Ok, I'm starting to understand this better now. Apple TV basically is asking for $229 to provide you with surround sound. I don't see anything else they have to offer that you guys aren't already able to do with your laptop.
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Apple TV renders brick and mortar video stores useless imo. The one thing a video store was still good for was spur of the moment rentals. This solves that problem easily and when their library size approaches that of a brick and mortar store I don't know how the B&M store survives. Apple TV also lets you watch on your TV versus huddling around the computer. As far as I know, this is the first product available that makes the TV viewing easy. I know that PPV movie rentals have been around for years, but the selection has always been minimal.

The cost of the Apple TV unit is still a bit prohibitive for some so the brick and mortar stores may be safe for a little while longer. But as soon as the price begins to come down, and other companies offer similar products (I'd imagine Blockbuster will try and do something similar) I don't see any reason to ever deal with a brick and mortar store again.
I thought cable was getting into on-demand rentals, as well as NetFlix online, etc. AppleTV is not the first to try this.

We use Blockbuster by mail, but still visit the Blockbuster store from time-to-time. It has definitely reduced our visits to the regional video chain/bookstore we used to frequent. Those are the kinds of places at risk. I noticed are trying to become more like Borders with the coffee bar, etc.

Any on-demand product better be the same resolution as a DVD and not take too-long to download or access via cable. Cable internet is pretty fast, but not everyone has that kind of speed to their house. I think the brick-n-mortar stores will be around for awhile.
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I like the Redhat-type machines where you can get a dvd for a dollar a night. Usually the selection is small, but they can be pretty convenient.
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I only used apple's product as the example because it seems to offer everything a customer wants. Has a large library, available in HD, has surround sound, has instant download times etc... I realize there are other similar options, but apple's seems to have the most features. I'm with Lebowski; I give the brick and mortar stores 5 years regardless of which company puts together the best deal.
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