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8ballrollin · 02-10-2008, 09:23 PM

I listened to Obama and McCain on Friday when they were here in Seattle. Here is my take on both...

I can see why Obama has a lot of support; he is very charismatic and his audiences are ecstatic to see him. I understand a rally is just that - it's not a policy speech to a think-tank, but for me personally, it was a little too Tony Robbins. There was a whole lot of, "I'm pumped up, I'm ready to go!" and "Let’s do this!"

On the policy topics, from memory, he points were as follows...

"We are going to make sure every Americans heath care!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd)

"We're not going to have a health care system that only treats sickness and disease…we're going to have preventive care, to stop things like obesity in children" (screaming and cheering from the crowd)

"If you already have heath care, we're going to reduce your deducible by $2,500!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd)

"We're going to give everyone who wants to go to college a $4,000/year credit. We're going to make education affordable again!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd) "But you're going to have to give back by serving in your community or the Peace Corps" (screaming and cheering from the crowd).

I know I'm biased as a Republican and I tried to have an open mind, but I thought his platitudes were semi-comic. It was like I was watching a SNL skit of an Obama rally. It was almost of as dream-worldish as Gov Gregoire's we're-going-to-end-homeless-in-WA address prior to Obama coming on.

McCain spoke to only a couple hundred people, whereas Obama's speech was to a nearly full Key Area.

I was genuinely surprised by McCain's message and demeanor. He is much better in this type of forum – speaking to a ballroom-sized crowed than he is in the debates. He closed his address paraphrasing Regan's paraphrasing of Winthrop with the whole 'city on a hill’ dealio.

He was very much in his 'greatness of America' mode and I found it effective.

SoonerCoug · 02-10-2008, 09:25 PM

I like Obama. I voted for Obama.

The problem with Obama is that he doesn't really say anything specific. He speaks in broad generalities. Obama=wild card. I'll take a wild card over Hillary or McCain.

8ballrollin · 02-10-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

I like Obama. I voted for Obama.

The problem with Obama is that he doesn't really say anything specific. He speaks in broad generalities. Obama=wild card. I'll take a wild card over Hillary or McCain.

I decided on Friday, I will work to try and defeat him.

Part of it is that opposing Obama in the Seattle area is like opposing Romney in Utah - there is some fun in it.

Join me, SU...

http://washington.johnmccain.com/

Tex · 02-10-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I went to a charity fundraiser last night and it seemed about everyone had just come out of democratic caucusing. There was widespread entusiasm for Obama expressed such as I've not seen for a candidate since Reagan. I felt like I was in the Joseph Smith building for an evening function following General Conference (you all know how I love dogma).

Listen up, Tex, the rest of you "I might just sit this one out because I'm so mad Romney flamed out" types. You'd better steel yourselves because the Obama cult is coming. Where I am there's nothing I can do to stop it.

Just to be clear, "I might just sit this one out because I detest John McCain and there's no true conservative in the race."

It really doesn't have anything specifically to do with Mitt Romney. Oh, and the cult is already here.

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

As an Obama supporter, I am most disappointed in how few Obama supporters actually know anything about their favored candidate.

It's quite possible that fewer would support him if they truly understood the extend of his liberal views. But it doesn't matter. Their support for him is much as it was for Bill Clinton ... what Limbaugh always referred to as the "arousal gap." Sorry if that sounds misogynistic, but let's face it: that explains Cali Coug's adoration.

SeattleUte · 02-10-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

I decided on Friday, I will work to try and defeat him.

Part of it is that opposing Obama in the Seattle area is like opposing Romney in Utah - there is some fun in it.

Join me, SU...

http://washington.johnmccain.com/

You know where to find me. Give me a call.

8ballrollin · 02-10-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Oh, and the cult is already here.

On Friday Obama spoke to 21,000, Hillary to 5,000 and McCain to 400. lol.

Cali Coug · 02-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Hillary will defeat Obama, but just barely.

Wanna bet?

Cali Coug · 02-10-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

It is a frightening thing to behold. It's almost like a bunch of women masturbating with a bunch of vibrators after an Oprah meeting, or whatever her sychophants call it. He would be tougher to defeat than Hillary, but Texas will do him in, as Latins don't really like him. The "enthusiasm" which the mob mentality creates scares me, in that it takes thinking adults and makes them into anti-thinking idiots.

Republicans still must stick together to fight the socialist scourges of Hillary or Obama.

And just like that Arch raises his IDMRA.

Tex · 02-10-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Wanna bet?

You weren't the guy who predicted that McCain wouldn't be the Republican nominee, were you?

Cali Coug · 02-10-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

You weren't the guy who predicted that McCain wouldn't be the Republican nominee, were you?

I am that guy. And I am the guy who is giddy he now will be.

Of course, you thought it would be Giuliani.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...87&postcount=7

And you weren't too high on McCain's chances either.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...70&postcount=3

Go figure.

02-10-2008, 09:23 PM	#11
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	I listened to Obama and McCain on Friday when they were here in Seattle. Here is my take on both... I can see why Obama has a lot of support; he is very charismatic and his audiences are ecstatic to see him. I understand a rally is just that - it's not a policy speech to a think-tank, but for me personally, it was a little too Tony Robbins. There was a whole lot of, "I'm pumped up, I'm ready to go!" and "Let’s do this!" On the policy topics, from memory, he points were as follows... "We are going to make sure every Americans heath care!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd) "We're not going to have a health care system that only treats sickness and disease…we're going to have preventive care, to stop things like obesity in children" (screaming and cheering from the crowd) "If you already have heath care, we're going to reduce your deducible by $2,500!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd) "We're going to give everyone who wants to go to college a $4,000/year credit. We're going to make education affordable again!" (screaming and cheering from the crowd) "But you're going to have to give back by serving in your community or the Peace Corps" (screaming and cheering from the crowd). I know I'm biased as a Republican and I tried to have an open mind, but I thought his platitudes were semi-comic. It was like I was watching a SNL skit of an Obama rally. It was almost of as dream-worldish as Gov Gregoire's we're-going-to-end-homeless-in-WA address prior to Obama coming on. McCain spoke to only a couple hundred people, whereas Obama's speech was to a nearly full Key Area. I was genuinely surprised by McCain's message and demeanor. He is much better in this type of forum – speaking to a ballroom-sized crowed than he is in the debates. He closed his address paraphrasing Regan's paraphrasing of Winthrop with the whole 'city on a hill’ dealio. He was very much in his 'greatness of America' mode and I found it effective. __________________ "Five to one... One in five No one here gets out alive"

02-10-2008, 09:25 PM	#12
SoonerCoug Formerly known as MudPhudCoug Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of desolation Posts: 2,548	I like Obama. I voted for Obama. The problem with Obama is that he doesn't really say anything specific. He speaks in broad generalities. Obama=wild card. I'll take a wild card over Hillary or McCain.