So the MWC sucks this year yet......

[DJRoss]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Let's do a hypothetical: BYU games are free on any system (cable or satellite), but you have to call in and specifically request the channel.

So every BYU fan has access, and virtually no one else does.

And let's say that the money given to BYU is slightly more money than BYU would get from an ESPN deal.

Is this good for BYU? More money, every BYU fan with access.

I think it would be a horrible deal. But obviously Holmoe et al. would be ecstatic.

I agree, that would be a bad deal.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by DJRoss

BYU can go to a BCS game next season and than negotiate a BYU only deal with ESPN. This is assuming that the mtn fiasco has not been taken care of and BYU goes their own way in dealing with their visibility. I am not saying they necessarily leave the conference (even though I think they could pull it off), but that they like Georgia and Oklahoma did in 1985, take control of their own exposure.

I could see ESPN paying BYU up to 2 Million a year for rights to air. I could see them taking over a million a year in trade for BYU to maintain scheduling rights or at least guarantees.

Source? No need to quote. Just give the B of M chapters and verses.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by DJRoss

BYU can go to a BCS game next season and than negotiate a BYU only deal with ESPN. This is assuming that the mtn fiasco has not been taken care of and BYU goes their own way in dealing with their visibility. I am not saying they necessarily leave the conference (even though I think they could pull it off), but that they like Georgia and Oklahoma did in 1985, take control of their own exposure.

I could see ESPN paying BYU up to 2 Million a year for rights to air. I could see them taking over a million a year in trade for BYU to maintain scheduling rights or at least guarantees.

lol....BYU is not Notre Dame...even in a crappy down year for the Irish.

We don't have the chutzpah or oomph to get an independant contract with ESPN....and even if we did,,,we'd be playing on Tues, Wed....etc.....

It will never happen.

BYU is not Notre Dame when it comes to $$ or following and never will be.

[DJRoss]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

lol....BYU is not Notre Dame...even in a crappy down year for the Irish.

We don't have the chutzpah or oomph to get an independant contract with ESPN....and even if we did,,,we'd be playing on Tues, Wed....etc.....

It will never happen.

BYU is not Notre Dame when it comes to $$ or following and never will be.

No BYU is not Notre Dame which is why I wasn't suggesting BYU could bring in 9 Million per year from a TV contract. 2 Million I believe is possible, 1.2-1.5 Million very doable, but 9 Million would not happen (NOTRE DAME TV CONTRACT)


Feel free to speculate that BYU has insufficient drawing power per season as to warrant a small exclusive contract. I am sure those MAC and Sunbelt games of which there have been more than ten aired this past season are more exciting.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

We finish with four 9 win teams? Possibly two with double digit wins when AFA takes on Cal. 4 of the 9 members have 9 wins and if TCU wins its bowl game they finish with 8 wins. That is pretty solid. The MWC has an overall record this year of: 59-48 (.551 winnning percentage)



That is pretty good. To put it in comparison with the other conferences:

ACC (12 teams) 3 teams with at least 9 wins, and a potential 4th after Wake plays their bowl game.

Big 12 (12 teams) 4 teams with at least 9 wins. Potentially 5 with Texas Tech still to play.

Big East (8 teams) 4 teams with at least 9 wins.

Big 10 (11 teams) 3 teams with at least 9 wins.

Conference USA (12 teams) 2 teams with at least 9 wins.

MAC (13 teams) 0 teams with at least 9 wins.

Pac-10 (10 teams) 2 teams with at least 9 wins, and OSU and Oregon can get their if they win their bowl games.

SEC (12 teams) 3 teams with at least 9 wins, and Arkansas and Auburn can get their if they win their bowl games.

Sunbelt (8 teams) 0 teams with at least 9 wins.

WAC (10 teams) 2 teams with at least 9 wins.

New Mexico playing 6-6 Nevada in the second annual New Mexico Bowl is about as cheesy as it gets. Does that count?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by DJRoss

No BYU is not Notre Dame which is why I wasn't suggesting BYU could bring in 9 Million per year from a TV contract. 2 Million I believe is possible, 1.2-1.5 Million very doable, but 9 Million would not happen (NOTRE DAME TV CONTRACT)


Feel free to speculate that BYU has insufficient drawing power per season as to warrant a small exclusive contract. I am sure those MAC and Sunbelt games of which there have been more than ten aired this past season are more exciting.

You're smoking copious amounts of crack if you think BYU can get an exclusive contract with ESPN.

Obviously they'd have to go Independent for this to even be a discussion and being independent would be a bigger disaster that what's going on right now.

[DJRoss]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

You're smoking copious amounts of crack if you think BYU can get an exclusive contract with ESPN.

Obviously they'd have to go Independent for this to even be a discussion and being independent would be a bigger disaster that what's going on right now.

No I am not smoking anything. As usual you have to resort to outrageous claims based on the level of someones sanity. Where is the proof that they cannot? That they do not? Yeah tell that to the hot chick in high school who rarely has a date because all the guys are too sure that she must have a boyfriend. Seriously, think about it instead of reacting to your dislike of me.

Given the current impasse that is the mtn, BYU could very well negotiate their own contract without actually having to leave the conference. The key is to actually sit down and negotiate instead of sitting on their thumbs waiting for something to happen. BYU is definately in the catbird seat, and the conference members can either accept it or raise a stink. If they decide to do that, they could force BYU's hand to temporarily or for the longer term be independent. Not necessarily the desired result, but you might be surprised what the other conference members might be willing to put up with to keep BYU in their fold. If BYU were to jump, Air Force is gone immediately. That begins the destruction of the mtn. Utah will try and parlay some deal with BYU to get in on whatever their plans are. Who is left. TCU will end up finding another home yet again and the rest are basically screwed.

Again I was speculating, but your aggressive demeanor turns every discussion into a pissing contest. Dude, relax. Just try to have some fun over the holidays. Okay?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by DJRoss

No I am not smoking anything. As usual you have to resort to outrageous claims based on the level of someones sanity. Where is the proof that they cannot? That they do not? Yeah tell that to the hot chick in high school who rarely has a date because all the guys are too sure that she must have a boyfriend. Seriously, think about it instead of reacting to your dislike of me.

Given the current impasse that is the mtn, BYU could very well negotiate their own contract without actually having to leave the conference. The key is to actually sit down and negotiate instead of sitting on their thumbs waiting for something to happen. BYU is definately in the catbird seat, and the conference members can either accept it or raise a stink. If they decide to do that, they could force BYU's hand to temporarily or for the longer term be independent. Not necessarily the desired result, but you might be surprised what the other conference members might be willing to put up with to keep BYU in their fold. If BYU were to jump, Air Force is gone immediately. That begins the destruction of the mtn. Utah will try and parlay some deal with BYU to get in on whatever their plans are. Who is left. TCU will end up finding another home yet again and the rest are basically screwed.

Again I was speculating, but your aggressive demeanor turns every discussion into a pissing contest. Dude, relax. Just try to have some fun over the holidays. Okay?

If it would've been lucrative for BYU to take that route they already would have.

It might end up coming down to that because of the discontent regarding the MTN deal, but unfortunately BYU is in a position where they have to take it up the yin-yang whether they like it or not because they along with other Universities approved a crappy deal that they now have to live with and alienate their fanbase with.

Hey,,,if they do do it,,,I'll come back later and admit I was wrong.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by DJRoss

No I am not smoking anything. As usual you have to resort to outrageous claims based on the level of someones sanity. Where is the proof that they cannot? That they do not? Yeah tell that to the hot chick in high school who rarely has a date because all the guys are too sure that she must have a boyfriend. Seriously, think about it instead of reacting to your dislike of me.

Given the current impasse that is the mtn, BYU could very well negotiate their own contract without actually having to leave the conference. The key is to actually sit down and negotiate instead of sitting on their thumbs waiting for something to happen. BYU is definately in the catbird seat, and the conference members can either accept it or raise a stink. If they decide to do that, they could force BYU's hand to temporarily or for the longer term be independent. Not necessarily the desired result, but you might be surprised what the other conference members might be willing to put up with to keep BYU in their fold. If BYU were to jump, Air Force is gone immediately. That begins the destruction of the mtn. Utah will try and parlay some deal with BYU to get in on whatever their plans are. Who is left. TCU will end up finding another home yet again and the rest are basically screwed.

Again I was speculating, but your aggressive demeanor turns every discussion into a pissing contest. Dude, relax. Just try to have some fun over the holidays. Okay?

DJ, it's very simple: ESPN has enough contracts with enough conferences that they simply don't have any motivation to be offering an exclusive deal with BYU. The time for that was 15 to 20 years ago before they got increased access to the Big 10, SEC, Big East and ACC.

If BYU were to negotiate some exclusive deal, it would put them on ESPNU with odd weeknight time slots.

[livecoug]

Sorry, DJ, du ar tokig.