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TheSizzle36 · 11-08-2007, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I can agree with this, but it puts BYU in the same position as before. Why take the chance when the grass isn't greener?

Edit: BYU without Utah isn't as attractive as BYU with Utah. They really do need each other.

I think the WAC would gladly welcome BYU and Utah, especially if it meant they got to kick out Utah State and Louisiana Tech.

CJF · 11-08-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle36

There has been a lot of talk about going independent, and the two biggest obstacles are TV and scheduling IMO. Assuming that a TV deal could be worked out that was acceptable, we would still have to deal with scheduling troubles.

I think there are a few teams we would be able to schedule every year regardless in:

Utah
Utah State
Hawaii

In addition, I think that we would be able to schedule 2 of the following 4 teams every year:

Air Force
Wyoming
UNLV
Colorado State

Add in a "gimmie" game like an Eastern Washington, and we are at 6 games a year.

I think landing 2 PAC10 teams would be realistic each year, one home and one away, putting us at 8 games. But after that, then what?

The good news is we would have more yearly schedule flexibility, so I think we would get to play some bigger schools every year, but a lot of those without a return visit guaranteed. Not sure how much this really benefits BYU as a program, other than recognition against bigger name schools. Even if we get 2 of these games a year, that only puts us at 10 games a year. Would we really rather play 2 more schools each year like a Nevada or a Tulsa or a UTEP, or stay in a (crappy) conference that at least has bowl games tied in with the chance to play for a conference championship.

Maybe I'm underestimating our scheduling power, but I'm not sure that scheduling Independantly would be a better option than the MWC. Although our conference is downright awful this year, so maybe it would be better.

I think we'd also try to do schedule Army, Navy, and probably try to get something with ND again also. Those would probably be our late season games while every one else in the country is in conference play. Finish up with Utah.

DrumNFeather · 11-08-2007, 12:10 PM

I would be interested to know in this scenario if there would be MWC backlash from BYU leaving the conference. In your scenario BYU could play up to 4 MWC teams as an independent, and I just wonder if the teams would get together and decide to not play BYU because it left the conference...and that includes the rivalry game vs. Utah.

MikeWaters · 11-08-2007, 12:29 PM

Personally if BYU left the MWC and Utah refused to play BYU, I wouldn't care one bit.

ChinoCoug · 11-08-2007, 12:44 PM

we can easily start another rivalry with someone else (Boise?). ND has what, 6 or 7 rivalries?

jay santos · 11-08-2007, 12:48 PM

Scheduling would not be nearly as difficult as some of you think. Saying our schedule would be full of Utah State and Eastern Washington is silly. A terrible AD could create a schedule equal to the one we have one, a good AD could create an awesome schedule as an independent. The problem is basketball and other sports.

FMCoug · 11-08-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrumNFeather

I would be interested to know in this scenario if there would be MWC backlash from BYU leaving the conference. In your scenario BYU could play up to 4 MWC teams as an independent, and I just wonder if the teams would get together and decide to not play BYU because it left the conference...and that includes the rivalry game vs. Utah.

No way in hell would Utah refuse to play BYU.

ChinoCoug · 11-08-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Scheduling would not be nearly as difficult as some of you think. Saying our schedule would be full of Utah State and Eastern Washington is silly. A terrible AD could create a schedule equal to the one we have one, a good AD could create an awesome schedule as an independent. The problem is basketball and other sports.

we can be independent in FB and have all other sports join the WAC.

DrumNFeather · 11-08-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FMCoug

No way in hell would Utah refuse to play BYU.

What if it wasn't up to Utah? What If it was a conference decision?

jay santos · 11-08-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrumNFeather

What if it wasn't up to Utah? What If it was a conference decision?

Is there a precedent for this?

11-08-2007, 12:10 PM	#13
DrumNFeather Active LDS Ute Fan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nantucket : ) Posts: 2,566	I would be interested to know in this scenario if there would be MWC backlash from BYU leaving the conference. In your scenario BYU could play up to 4 MWC teams as an independent, and I just wonder if the teams would get together and decide to not play BYU because it left the conference...and that includes the rivalry game vs. Utah. __________________ "It's not like we played the school of the blind out there." - Brian Johnson.

11-08-2007, 12:44 PM	#15
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	we can easily start another rivalry with someone else (Boise?). ND has what, 6 or 7 rivalries? __________________ 太初有道

11-08-2007, 12:29 PM	#14
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Personally if BYU left the MWC and Utah refused to play BYU, I wouldn't care one bit.

11-08-2007, 12:48 PM	#16
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Scheduling would not be nearly as difficult as some of you think. Saying our schedule would be full of Utah State and Eastern Washington is silly. A terrible AD could create a schedule equal to the one we have one, a good AD could create an awesome schedule as an independent. The problem is basketball and other sports.