If Bateman is the new Apostle

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Would someone please explain to me why Bateman would be a problem? If I had more than a fan of the rival football team interest in BYU would I understand?

As the BYU president he was a micro-manager and was often heavy-handed. When someone would write him a memo to question an administrative decision he would sometimes respond with "You are on the road to apostasy."

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

As the BYU president he was a micro-manager and was often heavy-handed. When someone would write him a memo to question an administrative decision he would sometimes respond with "You are on the road to apostasy."

I had no idea. He sounds like a barrel of laughs.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

As the BYU president he was a micro-manager and was often heavy-handed. When someone would write him a memo to question an administrative decision he would sometimes respond with "You are on the road to apostasy."

Of course there's nothing to support this except hearsay and gossip.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Of course there's nothing to support this except hearsay and gossip.

Trust me on this one, Rocky.

Besides, there is a memo online somewhere that he wrote to Bill Evenson in the Physics dept at BYU using this response. If I had more time this morning I would track it down.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Trust me on this one, Rocky.

Besides, there is a memo online somewhere that he wrote to Bill Evenson in the Physics dept at BYU using this response. If I had more time this morning I would track it down.

Like I said. Hearsay and gossip.

BTW: This isn't nor should it be construed as being a Bateman homer. Just pointing the obvious out.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

My problems with him are more fundamental than that: his logic circuit has a serious short in it.

I agree.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

As the BYU president he was a micro-manager and was often heavy-handed. When someone would write him a memo to question an administrative decision he would sometimes respond with "You are on the road to apostasy."

I'll admit, I got a chuckle when he made all the feminists cry over some clothesline deal. (I know, that's cold-hearted of me.) But yeah, he was a micro-manager, most notably from my perspective with athletics. He was instrumental in pushing out Rhondo "all the responsibility-none of the authority" Fehlberg, as well as the Reid disaster and the football HC crackdown. To this day, he's the only Lord's annointed my dad has ever spoken ill of.

But in person, he's actually a nice guy. I sat next to him at a BYU B-Ball game last season and we chatted a bit throughout. He was nice to my boy who was a bit restless. Big fan of the Y. I guess I've forgiven him.

[SeattleUte]

Lebowski and others are being unduly eliptical. I will speak plainly.

Bateman is well known as the mullah BYU president with weak credentials who undid much of the good work that the legitimate heavyweights Oaks and Lee did toward making it a mainstream, respected university. BYU faculty generally fall into two groups--the sectarian group that wants BYU to remain hidebound and in the dark ages, and the enlightened group that aspires to BYU gaining those qualities that would make it a distinguished secular university. Bateman's assention in the wake of Lee's tragic early death represented a triumph for the dark side. Picture Boyd K. Packer as a university president.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Lebowski and others are being unduly eliptical. I will speak plainly.

Bateman is well known as the mullah BYU president with weak credentials who undid much of the good work that the legitimate heavyweights Oaks and Lee did toward making it a mainstream, respected university. BYU faculty generally fall into two groups--the sectarian group that wants BYU to remain hidebound and in the dark ages, and the enlightened group that aspires to BYU gaining those qualities that would make it a distinguished secular university. Bateman's assention in the wake of Lee's tragic early death represented a triumph for the dark side. Picture Boyd K. Packer as a university president.

That post was Shaf-esque except that he gave attribution to his quotes and ideas.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

That post was Shaf-esque except that he gave attribution to his quotes and ideas.

Weak. Shaf has no idea about BYU's soul and its politics, I would venture. I have good and solid sources.