BCS--Devil's Advocate Position

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I'm talking about the payout of BCS bowls. That little club would rather not share that pie.

what is preventing the Las Vegas Bowl from tripling their payout?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

what is preventing the Las Vegas Bowl from tripling their payout?

Sponsorship, ticket prices, TV contracts, prestige level (including the quality of teams), etc.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

what is preventing the Las Vegas Bowl from tripling their payout?

Sponsors.

What is preventing the BCS from including the Vegas Bowl in their little club?

Sponsors.

The BCS is all about money, not finding a champion. It never has been.If they would just admit that, then I wouldn't be so against the BCS.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

This contradicts your Delany #3 comment above.

How so? I don't follow.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Sponsors.

What is preventing the BCS from including the Vegas Bowl in their little club?

Sponsors.

The BCS is all about money, not finding a champion. It never has been.If they would just admit that, then I wouldn't be so against the BCS.

What I am getting to is that the reason there isn't more money for the Las Vegas Bowl is that there is little public interest in the MWC champion, and therefore little sponsorship. There is no conspiracy against the MWC. There are teams that put 20,000 in the stands however.

The west is sparsely populated and people just don't care as much about football. And because they don't care there is less money.

This is the MWC's problem, not the BCS conferences' problem.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Yes, everybody has a shot, but they don't have an equal shot. That is the problem.

As for money, Delaney is really saying that the BCS people don't want to share any more money with the non-BCS schools than they absolutely have to. The actions of the powers that be in the BCS have proven this.

1. Why don't you think everyone has an equal shot?

2. You're talking about revenue distribution. Moving from BCS to playoff doesn't mean revenue distribution would change much. NCAA BB playoff revenue distribution is about as disproportionate as FB bowl revenue distribution.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

What I am getting to is that the reason there isn't more money for the Las Vegas Bowl is that there is little public interest in the MWC champion, and therefore little sponsorship. There is no conspiracy against the MWC. There are teams that put 20,000 in the stands however.

The west is sparsely populated and people just don't care as much about football. And because they don't care there is less money.

This is the MWC's problem, not the BCS conferences' problem.

I understand that, which is why I pointed out sponsors.

But how about my point the the BCS is less about finding a champion than it is about money? That is my primary argument.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Sponsors.

What is preventing the BCS from including the Vegas Bowl in their little club?

Sponsors.

The BCS is all about money, not finding a champion. It never has been.If they would just admit that, then I wouldn't be so against the BCS.

I don't like the BCS, but I find this sentiment to be the most ignorant.

Do you really think the selection process to find a champion is not fair?

Back in the day, they took the best from the AL and best from NL and let them play in the world series. Was that unfair by not letting in the other six teams that they do today?

[smokymountainrain]

Originally Posted by jay santos

3. It's fair. Everybody has a shot at the national championship and a BCS bowl. I believe this. A prerequisite before the season even starts is at least a reasonable SOS, but if you have this, everyone has a shot.

You lost me at "everybody has a shot at the national championship"

How do you figure?

You have three teams from BCS conferences with similar strength of schedule...all three of those teams finish the season undefeated...the way the BCS is set up, only two of those teams get a shot at the national championship, unless I'm missing something.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by smokymountainrain

You lost me at "everybody has a shot at the national championship"

How do you figure?

You have three teams from BCS conferences with similar strength of schedule...all three of those teams finish the season undefeated...the way the BCS is set up, only two of those teams get a shot at the national championship, unless I'm missing something.

Good point. But this happens very rarely. The seperation that occurs over a 12 game season seems just as fair in a theoretical sense as the seperation that might occur in a playoff.