It's obvious some of you get a rush

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Unfortunately they teach hate at the early stages of childhood in their schools and their textbooks.

It's pretty chilling to see a 3 year old girl saying she'd like to drink the blood of a Jew.

The problem is daunting.

However, we have neither the ability nor the will to strike long and hard enough to make preemptive strikes. We cannot subvert their seemingly endless supply of terroists and bombs. We don't even have an understanding how to subvert their horrible mindwashings of their peoples.

It is a very difficult problem, but no answers seem to be working.

Nuke them? Untenable and I don't believe God would have us prosper if we did something so horrendous.

Continual preemptive strikes? Lots of good that has done us. We have Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Somalia, Libya, Algeria, Syria and Iran. Gee, we've done a great job, not to mention the Phillipines, Malaysia, Indonesia.

It is a horribly difficult problem and we've approached it too simplistically.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Archaea

The problem is daunting.

However, we have neither the ability nor the will to strike long and hard enough to make preemptive strikes. We cannot subvert their seemingly endless supply of terroists and bombs. We don't even have an understanding how to subvert their horrible mindwashings of their peoples.

It is a very difficult problem, but no answers seem to be working.

Nuke them? Untenable and I don't believe God would have us prosper if we did something so horrendous.

Continual preemptive strikes? Lots of good that has done us. We have Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Somalia, Libya, Algeria, Syria and Iran. Gee, we've done a great job, not to mention the Phillipines, Malaysia, Indonesia.

It is a horribly difficult problem and we've approached it too simplistically.

What you say is true and has a lot of logic to it.

I'm not sure myself of the perfect solutions, as it's obvious there are none. I just don't understand the mentality by some of forgetting that you, I, my neighbor, etc....have had war declared on us.

I don't understand that mentality. I don't understand the advocacy mentality of those talking about Radical Islamists.

[MikeWaters]

Unfortunately all the good stuff we do gets wiped away by Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, the rape/murder by those idiots, allegations of torture, etc.

If you don't care what they think, then murder them.

If you care about morality, THEN CARE ABOUT MORALITY!

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Unfortunately all the good stuff we do gets wiped away by Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, the rape/murder by those idiots, allegations of torture, etc.

If you don't care what they think, then murder them.

If you care about morality, THEN CARE ABOUT MORALITY!

You're still not answering the question. Honestly, who's side are you on?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

You're still not answering the question. Honestly, who's side are you on?

I'm on the Lord's side. Whose side are you on?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm on the Lord's side. Whose side are you on?

You gonna ever answer the question or just keep being smug? I know you enjoy the mind games, but how about taking an honest stab at the question.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

You gonna ever answer the question or just keep being smug? I know you enjoy the mind games, but how about taking an honest stab at the question.

No, I'm serious. I'm on the Lord's side. If more people were on the Lord's side we wouldn't have this mess.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

No, I'm serious. I'm on the Lord's side. If more people were on the Lord's side we wouldn't have this mess.

Agreed, but are you gonna answer the question of why you enjoy/insist on playing Devil's Advocate so much? Especially in a situation where you've literally had war declared on you and your family?

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Mike Waters

No, I'm serious. I'm on the Lord's side. If more people were on the Lord's side we wouldn't have this mess.

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Agreed, but are you gonna answer the question of why you enjoy/insist on playing Devil's Advocate so much? Especially in a situation where you've literally had war declared on you and your family?

Perhaps Mike has already answered your question, Rocky, but it's not the answer you want to hear?

As for war being declared on us, other than the two attacks on the Twin Towers, the battle is not on US soil. I'm no pacifist - at least not in the political sense - but until we really have to defend ourselves, I believe the counsel of the Lord to "turn the other cheek" is pretty good advice. Should they hit the US again, then it would be time to strike back with a show of force of what they're really up against. Blowing them all up on their soil only pisses off everyone else. Blowing them up on US soil gives the rest of the world no reason to be upset - though many probably will still be.

There are no simple answers to the mess in the Middle East.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Agreed, but are you gonna answer the question of why you enjoy/insist on playing Devil's Advocate so much? Especially in a situation where you've literally had war declared on you and your family?

Do you have to go fight anybody who tries to pick a fight with you?

I honestly believe that this struggle will not end until one side shows that it means not to fight. The only way to effectively show this disposition is by your own blood-- the Ammonites come to mind.

You ask who's side he is on. Is it wrong to say that, even though he is an American loyal to his country, that he wants peace for the sake of his brothers on the other side of the line?