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D&C 93:29 is clearly speaking of an eternal creation of man (and not a mortal creation). Things get really wild in that passage though, in addition to delcaring man an eternal, uncreated intelligence, man is said to be "spirit," "spirit" and "element" are both said to be eternal ("spirit and element, insepearbly connected receive a fullness of joy"), and the "elements are the tabernacle of God." "Intelligence" is also said to be the glory of God. What I'm ruminating about is an implicit distinction in D&C 93 between God and the tabernacle of God. This might be a stupid thought, but Father and Son HAVING tangible bodies of flesh and bone (D&C 130) is not necessarily those bodies being part of their beings. It certainly could be, as in I HAVE a heart, but it could also be like, I HAVE a house (or tabernacle) wherein I dwell. In other words, God posesses a body and is inseperably connected to a body, but the body might be distinct from God. Of course, Mormon notions of God have not required a physical body (the Holy Ghost and Jehovah before being born. They were both God), and I might just be on the edge of a tiny bit of "why" that might be so.
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I guess I'm not getting your implications. Couldn't someone be sent from an organization and still be part of said organization? Help me understand why my reasoning can't be possible
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If one's relationship with God is like unto one's relationship with one's mortal father, then it would make sense that one would do similar work to one's father, and move on from a purely apprentice role as one would have as a child.
Ideally, one always reverences, respects, and often defers to one father when one is an adult. I happen to like the theosis implicit in Mormon doctrine/beliefs, and I won't stand idly by while Jay Santos tries to turn us into Methodists. |
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The passage declares one true God AND Jesus Christ. Jesus is not part of the one true God, even if one considers it an organization. Jesus is outside the notion of one true God in this passage. If it's an organization, he isn't part of it, although he delivers messages for it. Jesus can be the FedEx guy, but he isn't a part of the galactic Halliburton.
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Yes.
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What were Hinckley's comments on the topic you refer to, SIEQ?
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I took absolutely NOTHING away from Hinckley's answer, other than he does not wish to talk about anything DEEP or controversial with the public. |
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After being asked if we teach that God the Father was once a man, President Hinckley said, "I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it ... I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don’t know a lot about it, and I don’t think others know a lot about it." My thinking in this post definitely gives President Hinckley a way out, so to speak. I'm not suggesting that President Hinckley had any of what I've said in mind, though.
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