does ANYONE here like Hillary?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Tex

Utah Dan, I agree with you on Hillary and the war. She's still a lefty, but has not historically been as immature as Obama on "withdraw now."

It's worth pointing out, however, that Clinton governed as a moderate because he was forced to by a Republican Congress. Take a look at the first 2 years of his administration to see what might've happened had Newt & Co. not taken over.

Hillary is a socialist, and I remember all too well, being in the midst of the fight against her, her illegal efforts to socialize our health care system.

There is nothing I like about her. And I can find no socially or personally redeeming aspects to her persona or her agenda. I would fight her with every dying breath. She stands against almost everything that matters to me, private health care, low taxes, capable foreign affairs, low regulatory influence by bureaucracies, libertarian values and modest environmental regulation.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by Tex

Utah Dan, I agree with you on Hillary and the war. She's still a lefty, but has not historically been as immature as Obama on "withdraw now."

It's worth pointing out, however, that Clinton governed as a moderate because he was forced to by a Republican Congress. Take a look at the first 2 years of his administration to see what might've happened had Newt & Co. not taken over.

I'm working off the assumption that the American people won't leave either party in control of the executive and legislature long. To my knowledge, no filibuster-proof majority in the Senate is in the cards this year.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Hillary is a socialist, and I remember all too well, being in the midst of the fight against her, her illegal efforts to socialize our health care system.

There is nothing I like about her. And I can find no socially or personally redeeming aspects to her persona or her agenda. I would fight her with every dying breath. She stands against almost everything that matters to me, private health care, low taxes, capable foreign affairs, low regulatory influence by bureaucracies, libertarian values and modest environmental regulation.

Methinks the Archaean doth protest too much. Admit it. You're hot for Hillary.

[RedHeadGal]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Methinks the Archaean doth protest too much. Admit it. You're hot for Hillary.

There may be something to this. . .

And what's the matter with socialism anyway?

[tooblue]

I would vote for a Canadian liberal before I would vote for Hillary.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Methinks the Archaean doth protest too much. Admit it. You're hot for Hillary.

Let me put it to you plainly, I would cut off my dick and give it to Utestar before I'd let that whore touch it.

Looking at her and her hideously ugly fat legs, together with ugly mug and fat butt, would make willy go into hibernation for a millennium.

She is the most vile creature I could ever imagine. If it were between Stalin and Hillary, I'd vote for Stalin and hope to be in his inner circle.

What's wrong with socialism? It hasn't worked wherever it's been experimented upon. To allow bureaucrats to decide upon social welfare instead citizens, societies and cultures is an abomination. Plus, the markets are a much more fairer mechanism for delivering social justice than a huge, costly bureaucracy. I realize you living in the Beltway become enamored with the power and glamor of Washington, but for those of us who fight lives distraught and encumbered by red tape and mindless bureaucrats, it is the anathema to all reason, logic and well being.

Socialism is the misallocation of resources by those least qualified to make the determination in the most inefficient methodology. IT is a miscarriage of human justice and wreaks of mediocre people and mediocre lives. It is living hell.

Other than that, I suppose French socialism is just fine. France has good wine, some hot chicks, a beautiful countryside and a great coast, but it's lifestyle is not something I ever wish to endure outside of a three week vacation.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Adam

Come on Arch, you know that the overall standard of living by every objective comprehensive analysis is higher in Sweden and Denmark and Holland and Singapore and probably other socialist-leaning countries then it is in America.

You talk about Stalin and pretend that is the kind of socialism that Hillary/Obama want. It would be just as unfair to say McCain was Hitler reincarnate on the right wing.

They have it pretty good in many socialist-leaning countries. Better then here. Why not learn from their successes?

The standard of living in some socialist countries is good in spite of socialism, not because of it. Their lifestyle would be even better but for socialism. Of course, this is unprovable, but that's my hypothesis and I"m sticking to it.

The Scandinavian countries have a homogeneous workforce, a unified workforce, are highly educated, and were long before socialism was instituted, and would have higher standard of living but for their dumbass socialist structures. Socialism started at the end of the 19th and developed through the 20th becoming vogue immediately post WWII.

Hillary went about socializing health care the wrong way the first time and should NEVER EVER be forgiven for that. She is Jane Fonda to me, a persona non grata by virtue of her power grab. Her style of socialism would impoverish us, make business development sluggish and basically gut our economy.

[ute4ever]

Originally Posted by RedHeadGal

does ANYONE here like Hillary?

I'd vote for her before Huckabee.

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by RedHeadGal

Just wondering. Still too new to recognize names and positions for the most part. But it seems like there are people for and against most candidates except her. Well, and maybe Huckabee, too. Just strikes me as odd that she doesn't seem to have any supporters among you.

P.S. I'm not asking for reasons why you hate her, although that may come in a later post at a later time.

NO!