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The Holy Spirit of Promise factors into this as well. I remember being taught about how the Holy Spirit of Promis is what actually "binds" an ordinance. The performance of the ordinance is the physical step ... but the ordinance must be bound by the Holy Spirit of Promis based on worthiness, etc. This came up in a religion class when someone asked a question about those who get married in the temple but are unworthy.
And no I don't have a link ... just rememberd this from a class. EDIT: Google is my friend http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/b...t_promise.html
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Ordinances are theaters?
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Interestingly, your description in the second paragraph so nicely fits so many of those posting on this board it's silly.
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I agree with this, as stated here - simply performing the ordinances does nothing if the person being baptized is not properly prepared & has not had the requisite 'change of heart'...
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We're taught that without the ordinances of baptism, confirmation, and the temple, we cannot inherit the kingdom of God. I believe that to be true, regardless of the 'theatrical' element of the ordinances themselves. I'm surprised that you, having espoused numerous times that you are a faithful LDS mainly because this is the only place where resides the keys to perform those ordinances, would so blithely denigrate the importance of them. This ideology, taken as it's written here, would seem to me to espouse the idea that you don't need the church as long as you have the confirmation of the spirit.
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