National Health Care

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I would say "we like to make money" "we like to use expensive new drugs with no proven benefit over the older drugs" "we like to use the newest tech with no evidence of benefit" "we like to do expensive procedures with no proven benefit" (the procedure on knees where cartilage is shaved and cleaned).

Just watch the commercials on TV for new drugs.

The excesses also teach us. As you know, research flourishes when excesses exist.

Because we overuse the MRI, we know what it's good for and what it's not good for.

Again, we getting into a system debate without examining the way we should, in terms of costs, outcomes, available resources, and societal idiosyncrasies.

[BarbaraGordon]

Mike, I didn't realize Texas has more uninsured than any other state. Like 25% or so. That's an enormous number. Does the state have a plan to address the problem?

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

I guess we have to agree to disagree. If access is the only thing or the most important thing to measure a health system by then I guess you are right. I however, think that it is only a component of determining what the best system is.

Arguing in support of a system that boasts the best care available to a relative few is kinda like a conference boasting it has it's own sports channel that is only available to a relative few

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Mike, I didn't realize Texas has more uninsured than any other state. Like 25% or so. That's an enormous number. Does the state have a plan to address the problem?

I can't speak for all of Texas, but in Houston and Dallas they have county hospital districts that provide both inpatient and outpatient care to the indigent. This is paid for by county residents through special hospital district property taxes.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by tooblue

Arguing in support of a system that boasts the best care available to a relative few is kinda like a conference boasting it has it's own sports channel that is only available to a relative few

90% of the population is a relative few?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by tooblue

Arguing in support of a system that boasts the best care available to a relative few is kinda like a conference boasting it has it's own sports channel that is only available to a relative few

Relative few is relative dude. We're all among those relative few. So why would we vote to worsen our care?

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

90% of the population is a relative few?

90% ... 1 in 7 Americans do not have health insurance!

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Relative few is relative dude. We're all among those relative few. So why would we vote to worsen our care?

Isn't the US the moral centre of the universe ... the greatest nation on the planet?

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by tooblue

90% ... 1 in 7 Americans do not have health insurance!

Didn't you say earlier only 25% have access?

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

If you had a serious medical condition where would you want to be treated? Canada? England? France? Ask people outside the US and what would they say?

I'm happy to be treated in Canada ... oh, and I live outside the US