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12-19-2007, 12:32 PM | #112 | |
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Do you notice how I'm not permitted to view these statements differently? To you, there is ONE possible meaning: yours. If I don't bow down before your superior viewpoint, I'm "not interested in truth." Sometimes there really isn't much difference between you guys and, say ... an Evangelical.
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12-19-2007, 01:45 PM | #113 |
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Light hearted exit = you guys kicked my ass again, so I'll give you one last cheap shot before I quit.
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12-19-2007, 02:29 PM | #114 |
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Gracious as ever, santos. Some of you take this place ... and yourselves ... way too seriously.
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Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug |
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12-19-2007, 03:26 PM | #116 |
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C'mon now. Sure you might think the "evidence" leads to a likely conclusion, but are we discussing something here where the evidence is really that ironclad?
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12-19-2007, 03:43 PM | #117 |
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The JFS quote maybe there's some wiggle room. But if you look at the body of quotes made by early church leaders on the subject, there's no possible other conclusion. If you accept the quotes by Ute4ever, it's 100% clear. They're from an anti web site but SIEQ vouches for their accuracy.
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What's really interesting here is the box you are forcing Mormonism into. Your vociferousness that these quotes MUST mean sex and nothing else makes it impossible for any prophet to speak of the Father in a literal sense, and NOT imply sex along with it. According to you, whenever we hear "God is literally Jesus' father" we're supposed to think "sexual intercourse." Frankly, it's bizarre.
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Yes, we are. Look at the quotes.
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