Recording of an excommunication

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Deseret Books doesn't sell any works by John Krakauer. Come on, you are arguing with all the intelligence of a Snipe.

The book the guy cited, which the SP said was sold in DB, then the guy says "they no longer sell it." Which if true, supports the argument of suppression.

I bought my copy of Krakauer's book at the BYU Bookstore. It was on sale in the bestsellers section.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I didn't say this.

you did say this:

The lack of intellectual depth and engagement . . .

Pretty close, eh? Or was that referring only to the rank and file meaning that your criticism doesn't apply so the whole argument is self-contradictory?

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

Recording it is one thing...publishing it is another.

Depending on the circumstances (and in SU like fashion I have not listened to it) recording it alone could be a crime in some places.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

Recording it is one thing...publishing it is another.

No doubt. The guy had an agenda. First I will tape it and then I will publish it.

I think it fits in with his agenda to inform the world of his intellectual honesty.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

I can assure you she did. I am not sure if it is sold very many places anymore. Regardless, in her own words she was surprised it was sold there. Wasn't RSR sold in Deseret Books? Perhaps my understanding of what is and what isn't DB is off. Isn't the various Seagull Books and other LDS bookstores I find in malls affiliated with Deseret Books?

Deseret Book used to sell Brodie's book. But you had to ask for it at the desk. They kept the copies in the back storage room. That was before it was owned by the church, however.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by creekster

Depending on the circumstances (and in SU like fashion I have not listened to it) recording it alone could be a crime in some places.

The don't have a court reporter?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by creekster

you did say this:



Pretty close, eh? Or was that referring only to the rank and file meaning that your criticism doesn't apply so the whole argument is self-contradictory?

I wasn't referring to the weirdos like you.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The don't have a court reporter?

Maybe I should listen, but I have assumed we are talking about an unauthorised and surreptitious audio recording? Typicaly the record is kept by the clerk in notes and they are most certainly not word for word.

[MikeWaters]

Why not have excommunication proceedings be taped, and the person excommunicated can have a copy? I would like some transparency, while at the same time protecting privacy of the excommunicated. I don't think the leaders whoever ought necessarily to have an expectation of privacy.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Why not have excommunication proceedings be taped, and the person excommunicated can have a copy? I would like some transparency, while at the same time protecting privacy of the excommunicated. I don't think the leaders whoever ought necessarily to have an expectation of privacy.

Why the need for transparency? What are the hope of those who want a more open and transparent church. What are the hopes of those who want the church to teach and preach the full uncensored history of the church.