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I'd say it's probably untrue, and that LDS leaders have since recognized that skin color has nothing to do with sin.
The original edition of the BoM: 2 Ne. chapter 12 (pg. 117): Quote:
2 Ne. 30.6: Quote:
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I just don't see how evolution (whether true or false) requires much of a shift of any gospel beliefs. |
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The way it's explained in the Bible is that all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve, so that would mean that the rest of the humans, which had started civilizations all over the planet by that point, must have simply vanished, unless you are willing to believe that only the descendants of Adam and Eve have the light of Christ while the rest don't, which is absolutely counter to Mormon doctrine, as it states that everyone has the light of Christ. It would also mean that Christ's atonement would only apply to the progeny of Adam, a very small percentage of people. It would also make Christ's atonement pretty pointless, since the only reason it was necessary is because God interfered with the natural course of things in order to perfect a couple people and subsequently allowing them (forcing them?) to fall again. That doesn't make any sense. Another interpretation would be that God inserted the light of Christ into Adam and Eve a long time ago when they were primitive proto-humans, but then that would falsify the rest of Genesis, and if one is willing to throw out most of Genesis, one should certainly be willing to throw out the most absurd part of Genesis, Adam & Eve. In this case, it also seems very arbitrary, and imagining Michael sitting up there asking "Are they evolved enough yet?" doesn't strike me as a rational belief. Don't even get me started on the flood. It absolutely did not happen. Knowing this, why should we believe the rest of Genesis is anything other than metaphor/tall tales? |
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Etiologies aren't always about believability or credibility. Rather, they perform some type of function in the society. Ancient Hebrews (or Greeks or Egyptians) didn't always have the same notion of "belief" in their myths that we seem to crave in ours. Sure, there were free-thinkers who questioned the mythic tradition (e.g. Xenophanes, Palaephatus), but their opinions were, for the most part, beside the point.
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You know it absolutely didn't happen because....
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I was reading an article in the NYT today about how all men and women alive today trace their ancestry to about 10 men and 19 women. about 140,000 years ago.
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"pure" and "white" were used interchangeably in the OT. You're deliberately withholding information.
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1. The priesthood ban existed in defiance of God's will. 2. Racism among the prophets is the only or primary reason the ban wasn't lifted sooner. I don't know if you intended either one of those, but outside of that, I'm willing to entertain a broad set of possibilities about the dynamics of church leadership. To believe otherwise is, in my opinion, a direct challenge to the prophetic office. How is it they caught that passage and not 2 Nephi 5:21? Oversight?
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I really do find this surety amusing. You are absolutely convinced the flood didn't happen, as if it were truly within your power to divine.
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