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Unless I misread the article, it wasn't the personal opposition to an official act that would have triggered a disciplinary council (none was actually held). It was the publishing of the communications between himself and church leaders that would have triggered the disciplinary council. The personal opposition only got him suspended from the MoTab Orchestra.
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I once used the term African American to describe someone with black skin. I was immediately informed that they were Fijian. There are people with black skin in America that come from the pacific islands, from the Indian subcontinent, and from western rural China. Trying to come up with some term that is all-inclusive and completely non-offensive just isn't possible. I'll just stick with the word "black" if I ever happen to be referring to someone's skin color. |
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But one thing the much maligned Bruce McConkie doesn't get much credit for around here is his reaction to the 1978 revelation on the priesthood. He said, in essence, "I was wrong. Forget about what I said and follow the prophet." It's too bad folks like the guy in this article can't have that much integrity, instead choosing to kick against the pricks, as it were.
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Here is where you lose me. What exactly did these folks do that exhibited a lack of integrity? I can question their judgment and their sense of priority perhaps, but what evidence do you have to call their integrity into question?
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02-24-2008, 11:28 PM | #96 | |
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Perhaps the word integrity is wrong. Though I don't get the sense in the article that they are being completely forthright, I suppose that could just be Stack's poor journalism. You're right, it's more their judgment I'm questioning.
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2. Speculation on your part. Sure, church officials declined to comment, but we still only have one side of the story - that of Danzig. 3. Again, speculation. How do you know the situation would have been different had he not been in the orchestra? It could just as well be that he has a history of this kind of behavior but doesn't want that to be known so he looks like the victim here. Bottom line is that he chose to leave the LDS church. That was his, not the church's decision.
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One interesting aspect about this is that the guy's father was screwed by political fighting by church employees. At least according to the son.
In brief, the father worked in the church mountain vault, was accused of stealing something, eventually over a series of months, was found to be innocent of the charges, but in the meantime his church membership had been on the line, his reputation ruined, and then eventually even after being cleared by the highest levels of the church, was fired from his job. Looks like the son wasn't about to roll over like his father did. Something of a Greek tragedy feel to it. http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equ...e-more-on.html |
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I think if you work for or are affliated with any of the church organizations, you are held to a higher standard than the regular members. It is the image thing. You can't have a member who has attached, member of choir, member of orchestra, works at church office building, professor at BYU, janitor at BYU, etc. who has any taint associated with them. Thus the guy who got fired for helping the poor rather than attending church. That one sounded a little funny to me. I mean who uses the , I help the poor rather than attend church excuse. |
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