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I have no problem with that. The issue is unknowable, so each of us is left to ponder the issue and see what we are comfortable with. In the end, I would suggest we also don't know the answer because God hasn't chosen to tell us (which may also suggest he doesn't feel a need to be involved in every issue) and because it isn't necessary to know. |
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I'm sure the leaders of the LDS church are urging for more "racist-baptisms." Are you speaking from experience, dark britches?
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The problem with Mormons is that, for the most part, they still have so little real interaction with people of African decent that it is too easy to say, "Well, that's how God wanted it." and walk away. I'm sure that if that horizon was broadened significantly, most would come away saying, "Wow, we sure blew that one." I think it was Brian that asked after leaving this sphere which video of world history we would want to watch. For me it would be, should the detractors here be correct, a video showing the proceedings of the grand council in heaven where God opted for November 1978 as the before and after for so many of his children. I'm really interested in the discussion that led up to that one.
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It's the same approach I take with homosexuals (albeit a different response) when they ask the same questions. Just because we forbid them from being members (while engaging in such behavior) doesn't mean we answer them callously. Quote:
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You think this helps your case? Appealing to extreme examples in the OT as parallel examples would seem to weaken your argument, IMO.
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No, but I did live through the era where Mormons were sent out to do exactly that but found themselves checking people's family pictures in Brazil before baptism, passing on black households, and placing truth-seekers in Ghana on hold for years because they couldn't get beyond this issue.
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Or we can apply the Cougarguard standard and assume that Samuel was completely off his axle, and that God was dinking around in the heavens waiting for a prophet he could count on. |
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