04-26-2007, 03:56 PM | #11 | |
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A very good friend of mine is in the National Guard here in Utah and has been deployed and returned safely both times. His biggest complaint about what is happening over there is that the troops are not allowed to kill the enemy if the enemy shoots at them from a mosque, as school, a house or any place where collateral damage may occur. He has had friends injured of killed by snipers who shoot at them from mosques and unless that sniper comes out of the mosque under his own free will, they can't return fire. This is the result of politicians getting in the way.
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04-26-2007, 03:59 PM | #12 | |
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Why blame the real responsible parties, when you can score political points instead? It's fun! |
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04-26-2007, 03:59 PM | #13 | |
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My personal thoughts are 5 years more at double troop strength, at the barest of minimums. And even that is very unlikely to settle the situation down completely. Having said that I think doing the job right, creating a stable multi-ethnic Iraq is likely to take more than a decade more to do the type of institution building necessary to support such a construction. Absent something like that I think this is not winnable, in the sense that any development will be lasting. |
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04-26-2007, 04:02 PM | #14 |
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The United States can't win at any cost.
If we wanted to win at any cost we would firebomb any neighborhood where we were attacked. This may frustrate some soldiers, but those soldiers aren't realistic. The entire thing is political, and the only solution is political. This war can't be won with bullets. I hope your friend will understand that. |
04-26-2007, 04:03 PM | #15 | |
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Tex, it's great to have you over here. Keep posting. (I am serious)
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04-26-2007, 04:03 PM | #16 | |
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9/11 and Va. Tech don't have anything to do with Iraq, obviously. I am not sure why you want to bring them in. Oh, wait, you were accusing someone else of bringing in material that was irrelevant to try and score political points. |
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04-26-2007, 04:05 PM | #17 | |
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04-26-2007, 04:06 PM | #18 | |
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I would think you were just being sarcastic, but nobody else has ever come close to saying what you just said, so I can only assume you were being honest. Or were you just trying to score political points? Last edited by Cali Coug; 04-26-2007 at 04:10 PM. |
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04-26-2007, 04:09 PM | #19 | |
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The "totally take the gloves off and let the military run the war" has several problems. There is a reason the Constitution put the civilian authorities in charge of the military authorities. |
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04-26-2007, 04:11 PM | #20 | |
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I do have a problem with saying Bush is "responsible" for the "awful" situation in Iraq, since I kinda thought it was the terrorists. But since Bush is the world's biggest terrorist, I guess it's sixes. |
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