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Alluding to CHC believing 95% certainty that Joseph was a knowing fraud is an overstatement. CHC has NOT stated whether he concludes JS knew of his fraud or whether he believed he was inspired. Perhaps he does, but he has not stated that.
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You misunderstood me. I said I was 95% sure the BOM is not what JS claimed it to be. Right before that I said I could NOT swallow the idea that Js was a conscious fraud. I merely said that it was possible. As for the rest of your comment..... what? You're getting wordy without really saying anything. You seem to be saying that my beliefs are a result of my own fear of inadequacy and irrelevance. If so you are going too far. You don't know how long and hard I worked at making things work theologically, and if you think I'm being less than honest with myself you are severely mistaken. Please don't go this direction, I don't think this disussion should get personal.
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It is invariably burnished with myth. Interpretive is a fine though probably not wholly encompassing description of history. Herodotus is known as the first historian. No one claims Homer or J. was the first historian. These distictions which have persisted for millenia have meaning. Still, Herodotus' work is more than tinged with myth. But labelling all history as simply "fiction" is a dangerous exercise.
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Amen. People should be free here to express their conclusions and faith. But CHC is invaluable for his training in the historical method.
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I posted quickly before running off to prepare to teach class and did not fully formulate my thoughts, hence the ‘wordiness without saying anything’. It's a good excuse for my behavior but doesn’t excuse the broad, aggressive tone of my post. I have no desire to be read as a peevish, impassioned, ignorant fool. Yet trying to force myself back into the discussion that is what I have become. Carry on and please ignore my outburst. Last edited by tooblue; 01-25-2007 at 07:50 PM. |
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