11-30-2006, 03:28 PM | #31 | |
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My lack of discussion has nothing to do with "all emotion - no logic". It's just that we seem to have had this discussion so many times that I see no point in debating it further.
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11-30-2006, 03:48 PM | #32 | |
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It has never stated a proposition, based on experience that shows the principles which one supports have EVER been successful or even can be successful. As Utah Dan stated, it is ironic for those who desire intervention in Sudan or in other places in Africa, where the US has no economic or strategic interests, also oppose intervention where the US has economic or strategic interests.
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11-30-2006, 04:40 PM | #33 | |
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Europe talks a good game about international community and international law and collective action and in the end acts in their own slef interest. And they should do. Our idealists on this continent, however, should not be decieved that when we do what is best for us that we are not in step with more enlightened westen societies. These societies, in terms of committing money and resourses, look indifferent to Africa compared to us. And yet we are the villain aroud the world. This just underscores my point that where we "do good" we should do it realizing that we will get nothing in return, no support from anyone else and will in the end be blamed for any part of it that goes wrong. This 180 degrees from what some thing is right, that is, that we only should act when we have no self interest.
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11-30-2006, 04:46 PM | #35 |
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Isn't it though? Funny thing is you're the only one who doesn't get it.
By the way...take another gander at Elder Nelson's comments on the issue.....it would do you a world of good. You've a lot to learn.
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Similarly, the AIDS crisis in Africa presents all sorts of long term problems, including the spread of the disease into China, the adaptation of the disease to becoming drug resistant, etc. Economic and security interests are connected to health concerns in a more globally minded world. |
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11-30-2006, 04:56 PM | #37 | |
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I tend to think one of the reasons we don't do more in Africa with AIDS is because we view the disease through US glasses, thinking of it as a "gay disease" (though that perception is changing, largely due to Magic Johnson- who has also affected the perception that AIDS is deadly through his remission; does Magic Johnson just have a magic johnson?). Many Americans feel that those with AIDS deserve it, so many, including many on this board like Il Padrino, advocate spending nothing on AIDS research through tax dollars. That DOES impact AIDS policy, and I think it is tied to a degree to homophobia. US disinterest in Africa is also a problem. |
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But to view AIDS as an issue of immorality v. morality is overly simplistic. The MAJORITY of AIDS victims live in a continent where our version of "morality" is not accepted, nor largely applied. This goes back to my post on Africa and AIDS. |
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11-30-2006, 05:02 PM | #40 |
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I'm the only one? I was unaware that you were speaking on behalf of all other people.
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