The gay and the Pedophile....

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

I know I was just being as ridiculous as Tick.

It is an intellectual discussion which nobody wishes to have, because using "pedophile" is akin to drawing an analogy to somebody's actions being like unto "Hitler."

However, some sexual activities are socially acceptable, and some are not. Why?

I remember one of those shows, silly as it was, which involved vampires, who tried to suppress his instincts speaking to an administrative vampire. The bureaucrat pointed out that there were some things which even vampires wouldn't tolerate and the he was relating was how he killed a favorite daughter because she wanted to throw off the last taboo and engage in incest.

Distinctions are already apparent, so making them for me, would assist in the analysis and I'm aware of the Hitler scorched earth policy, but unlike the taboo of incest, aberrant sexuality, and I use "aberrant" referring to statistical incidence not with the usual negative connotations, might be rooted in genetic conditions.

Let's look at those with genetic components. Homosexuality, probably. Bisexuality? Dunno. Pedophilia? Dunno, are there enough studies? Bestiality?

Gay advocates intelligently seek to distinguish their group from the others because they are aware little sympathy exists for persons conducting such activities. So normalizers tend to use "consent" as the distinguishing factor in making the judgment. It sounds reasonable but will society ever eradicate that distinction?

[Archaea]

as a side note, and probably one which nobody cares about, I wonder how individuals learned much about sexuality before wide spread studies, internet discussions and playing the field.

How were the reigns initially instituted?

Ignoring a fundamentalist approach, what conditions existed that caused society to start saying, "hey, you can't sleep with whomever you like?" It's an unanswerable question but its answer might shed light on why we are where are today.

[jay santos]

The comparison is offensive. But the principle behind the offensive is important.

The bottom line is there are a lot of things the natural man wants that it can't have. I'm not sure very many people in the world are completely sexually satisfied a majority of the time. It seems to be something God wants us to experience and learn from. In light of that, the task the homosexual has in life is a heavy cross to bear but not inordinately special. It's a cross we all bear to some extent.

[The_Tick]

Originally Posted by jay santos

The comparison is offensive. But the principle behind the offensive is important.

The bottom line is there are a lot of things the natural man wants that it can't have. I'm not sure very many people in the world are completely sexually satisfied a majority of the time. It seems to be something God wants us to experience and learn from. In light of that, the task the homosexual has in life is a heavy cross to bear but not inordinately special. It's a cross we all bear to some extent.

I am not comparing. Drawing a parallel.

Using one to draw out a discussion about the other.

[marsupial]

OK. Since you say you are not trolling, I will say that it is more than just consent. It is also a pedophile's inability (or lack of desire) to have an meaningful relationship with an adult partner. A pedophile's relationship with a child is selfish domination, not mutual satisfaction.

[The_Tick]

Originally Posted by marsupial

OK. Since you say you are not trolling, I will say that it is more than just consent. It is also a pedophile's inability (or lack of desire) to have an meaningful relationship with an adult partner. A pedophile's relationship with a child is selfish domination, not mutual satisfaction.

I agree with that. I believe it tends to have something to do with abuse as a child myself. Someone that is domineered wants to dominate.

I tried getting with the county to do some research for my speech back in 05 but they weren't any help.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by marsupial

OK. Since you say you are not trolling, I will say that it is more than just consent. It is also a pedophile's inability (or lack of desire) to have an meaningful relationship with an adult partner. A pedophile's relationship with a child is selfish domination, not mutual satisfaction.

Sounds like you've given this more thought than I.

We did have one pedophile in our ward. Here's how it worked.

He apparently had been convicted/plea bargained and excommunicated as a member in Utah. He had a child I believe and moved to our state as an excommunicated member. He claimed he had worked for the CIA in Panama and had to execute prisoners after interrogation, this was an object lesson of priesthood which he was allowed to teach.

So he goes on the LDSsingles, finds a girl, borrows money from ward members, convinces this girl to marry him, despite people pleading with her to avoid him. They go to Mexico to honeymoon, return home for a scuffle at one member's house during the open house. Later, a few weeks later, he's arrested for molesting her daughter, in jail with marriage annulled. This apparently was his third or fourth marriage. Obviously, something was wrong with the dude, and he sits in Utah State Prison where he may rot.

I have no idea what makes those guys tick. He was able to procreate yet despite its misuse continued in a harmful and malicious way. Still can't figure it out to this day.

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by jay santos

I'm not sure very many people in the world are completely sexually satisfied a majority of the time.

My wife is one of the few.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

My wife is one of the few.

I heard her boyfriend's pretty proud of that fact, too.

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I heard her boyfriend's pretty proud of that fact, too.

He is. I let her indulge in her midget fetish every once in a while.