I think it's messed up

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by tooblue

You're right -- I'm happy to remove the word 'exactly'. An accounting (statement) for every dollar donated is provided to your Bishop and SP each month.

Does it itemize it though?

For example, CatBlue pays $30,000 a month in tithing.

Can he access a statement at the end of the month that says:

1. $10,000: construction costs for temples in City A, B, and C.
2. $5,000: perpetual education fund
3. $10,000: ward budgets for the following wards and stakes
4. $5,000: Utah Woolen Mills to cover the costs of expensive new suits, shoes, etc for GAs that are otherwise not earning income.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Does it itemize it though?

For example, CatBlue pays $30,000 a month in tithing.

Can he access a statement at the end of the month that says:

1. $10,000: construction costs for temples in City A, B, and C.
2. $5,000: perpetual education fund
3. $10,000: ward budgets for the following wards and stakes
4. $5,000: Utah Woolen Mills to cover the costs of expensive new suits, shoes, etc for GAs that are otherwise not earning income.

I'll answer in a PM.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by tooblue

I'll answer in a PM.

woohoo! sweet.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Agreed, but there are many who above and beyond the requested funds, not that you were suggesting otherwise.

But, I'm curious why it is really not charitable to contribute even if the motives are not wholly selfless, and why anybody can excuse Biden, if the information is accurate, for being a selfish son of a bitch, no matter what. He is in the public eye afterall, and I'm not usually considered charitable, but even my non Church charitable contributions make that look like a pittance. And again, I admit I'm selfish and focused often too much upon money.

I never said it wasn't charitable. And I wasn't talking about Biden.

I was suggesting that it's not quite valid to compare Utah to the other states because one is failing to take into account the outright coercion taking place there.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

The broadest standard of judgment for Obama. The narrowest for Republicans.

That's how we roll.

? Palin admitted she got $150000 in clothing. There is nothing to conclude other than she got $150000 in clothing. There are lots of possibilities with respect to Obama and Biden and their degree of charity. If those are the situations you are wanting to compare, you are going to lose.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I never said it wasn't charitable. And I wasn't talking about Biden.

I was suggesting that it's not quite valid to compare Utah to the other states because one is failing to take into account the outright coercion taking place there.

Now you're channeling Mike and trolling. AFter the discussion in this thread to this point that response is beneath you.

Moreover, what percetnage of other states include persons afraid of eternal consequences?

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by creekster

SUre, I know lots of well-educated people making large charitable donations that they choose not to declare. Makes sense to me. (of course, if he is giving coin to, say Hamas, then maybe it would make mroe sense)

I don't claim my tithing on my taxes as a charitable donation, largely because I don't view it as charity, and in part because I feel it means I am trying to take financial advantage of a sacred payment to the Lord. It cheapens the contribution, for me. Say what you will, but you have no idea what Biden donates or does not.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I don't claim my tithing on my taxes as a charitable donation, largely because I don't view it as charity, and in part because I feel it means I am trying to take financial advantage of a sacred payment to the Lord. It cheapens the contribution, for me. Say what you will, but you have no idea what Biden donates or does not.

serious? You don't claim tithing? wow. good for you....I guess

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I don't claim my tithing on my taxes as a charitable donation, largely because I don't view it as charity, and in part because I feel it means I am trying to take financial advantage of a sacred payment to the Lord. It cheapens the contribution, for me. Say what you will, but you have no idea what Biden donates or does not.

I don't believe you.

I also highly doubt that Mr. Joe always-subtle-and-reserved Biden would be giving lots of cash in private and would choose to never utter a word about it. This is a guy who stole someone else's life story so he could look better, after all.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by creekster

I don't believe you.

I believe Cali. From what I gather, he doesn't have enough earned income to itemize.