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Gay couples love each other. Society's current custom is that the normal result of love is marriage. Gays want to be married because that is what normal people that love each other do. So it comes down to 2 things. 1. gays love each other and 2. gays want to be considered normal. How is this difficult to understand? Last edited by Flystripper; 08-13-2008 at 10:52 PM. |
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08-13-2008, 10:55 PM | #112 |
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Am I the only one here cynical enough to think that part of the reasons gays want to be married is so they can get the social security benefits that spouses receive when the other spouse dies?
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Of course that is one reason. They want to be considered a spouse in every sense of the word.
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Why shouldn't they?
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Yes, they do. And to receive those benefits, one's spouse must die. Which is why I asked the question. I don't believe that the reason they want to get married is only to be recognized as being as "normal" as heterosexuals.
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David Melson, assistant executive director of Affirmation, said his organization publicized its proposals - which include standardized training for LDS bishops on how to counsel gay and lesbian Mormons - to cut through the "bureaucracy's inertia" and get Affirmation's message to LDS President Thomas S. Monson.
"You can't just walk in and say, 'Hi, President Monson, here we are.' " I wonder if this was really their true reason. I mean, I am sure it is very hard to get a message up to the First Presidency, but is it so hard that they would go about getting attention publicly like this? - or just impatience? and is that impatience warranted when it is obviously difficult to jump through all the hoops to get direct and focused time and answers?
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I'm not saying they shouldn't receive those benefits.
I think they could get a lot more support if they listed all reasons in their argument for making gay marriage legally recognized. On the flip side, those for Prop. 8 ought to give full disclosure as well. Not wanting to pay more taxes to increase the number of those receiving spousal security benefits should be a stated reason for not wanting gay marriage legalized too.
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Who's saying that's the only reason? And why wouldn't they feel entitled to receive that benefit?
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Took me awhile to type that from my blackberry IPU, so I didn't catch your response before submitting reply.
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