07-26-2008, 04:31 AM | #11 | |
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You also indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of the term "Marxism" when you interchange socialism with Marxism. |
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The entire progressive tax system is one that advocates a more even distribution of wealth. The existence of welfare is as well, among many other aspects of our civilization. To take the leap that any advocacy for a more even distribution of wealth equates to Marxism is laughable. |
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poor kid sick? screw him. If he wants to live, a rich person needs to make a donation in his name. |
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Obama's speech was clearly one of general political rhetoric, not specific policy. Those that are nitpicking are just annoyed that he gave a nice speech and that everyone cheered loudly for him. People should be less concerned with Obama's speech and more concerned (and honest) about why our current sitting President doesn't enjoy anywhere near that sort of respect, love, or even passing interest abroad. I was happy to see crowds of pro-US foreigners. I think Obama did a nice job with his speech. I doubt very highly that his speech will save the world and I doubt even more that it was a masked attempt to advocate a shift from capitalism. Attemps to deconstruct the speech are pointless. Wait until he gives a SOTU address and then we can talk. And for those anti-socialists, again I ask you....how did you enjoy those government subsidized student loans? On a side note, and I mean this honestly....what the heck is McCain doing right now? Where is he? Why is he not doing high profile things to up his visibility?
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But if it makes you feel better, I'll refer to him as a fascist from now on - someone who favors the "third way" between capitalism and socialism.
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Among other things. Govt-backed roads, govt-backed schools are nice as well. |
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It is like talking to my Utah FIL (not AZ FIL).....he says, "poor people are lazy and should work harder." While I dont disagree that SOME poor people are lazy and should work harder (as are some wealthy people), I can't understand how he has convinced himself to think in such black and white generalities...as though the magical solution for ALL downtrodden is simply to work harder. I have stated before that I cut through Skid Row almost every day I work downtown because it saves me a chunk of time on my commute. If I were any one of those people down there....and I saw the "light" today...and decided that tomorrow would be the day I begin to work harder....what the heck would I do without government programs to get me going? Who is realistically going to hire me? Or even talk to me? Where am I going to live? Shower? Many of these folks cannot even read and have nowhere to go. They want to change things, but the reality is that it is almost impossible. I think the next time I drive through Skid Row, I will pull over and just tell everyone to work harder. Also, I will buy some crank.
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And McCain appears to have all but given up at this point. Going to a German sausage restaurant on the day Obama speaks in Germany? Really? |
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