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You are welcome for my "admitting" you were right.
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Arch's beleif is not baseless. If what you are syaing iscorrect, that all sports have these incentives and so they are all cheating, that cycling catches some of its cheaters is remarkable evidence that its testing is good and that it is efective. No sport has more rigoursou testing that cycling. None. Plus, so far three riders have tested positive. That is less than 5% of the starting peloton. Drug use in cycling remains a problem. No one is claiming otherwsie, least of all me.
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If you are acknowleding that cycling has a cheating problem, then we are agreeing and there is no point is going forward. I am not in a position to argue your claim that no sport has a more rigorous testing regimen because I cannot outline the testing regimen for the NBA, NFL, tennis, or the MLB. Apparently you can.
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Gagne on the Dodgers.....was a lousy starting pitcher, almost run out of the league. They moved him to the bullpen and into middle relief and eventually a closer role. He started juicing big time (remember, he was almost sent back down). While juiced, he put together a historic string of consecutive saves that spanned 2 seasons. The he dropped off the juice....and he became injured, he lost his velocity, and he basically went back to sucking.
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I don't think the line between juicing for "recovery" purposes and juicing for "performance" purposes is that clean; major loophole in your system of sport ethics.
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Moreover, these guys, when caught, all claim they are using it to heal, but the anecdotal evidence I have read about suggests that HGH, for one, has real benefits that transcend healing.
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