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Which people said it was a torture camp?
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06-17-2008, 01:58 PM | #42 | |
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Oh THAT family. The one who
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06-17-2008, 05:55 PM | #43 |
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Do I have any substantive reason to believe her?
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As a non-lawyer, I'm not professionally obligated to assume that anyone on the opposing side of an argument is automatically lying. In normal human relations, people are typically given the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Moreover, you said "even if" her story was true, it wouldn't tell us about how the detainees are being treated; an odd assertion, given that detainee treatment is exactly what she's talking about. As I said before, if you were to accept her story as true, you'd really have nothing to argue about. Last edited by Tex; 06-17-2008 at 06:30 PM. |
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She is a prosecuting attorney at Gitmo. That isn't exactly a statement from the Red Cross. And if I assume that what she says is true, I don't see how that proves that the detainees are being treated well. I find it amusing that you don't see why. Assume the following (this is an analogy, and I know you struggle with these, but try to keep up): A person is required to remain in a location against that person's will. The location is actually a gigantic palace, and the person has access to personal servants who deliver delicious food and wine. The palace has many forms of entertainment available to the person. Should we assume that the person is living a great life and is treated well? |
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As to this one, a reasonable person would evaluate how the detainees are being treated compared to (1) what is considered humane generally, and (2) what is typical for an enemy combatant. All the evidence, from this woman and from others, points to the conclusion that the US is exceeding the standard on both counts. Last edited by Tex; 06-17-2008 at 08:53 PM. |
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