02-27-2008, 09:07 PM | #41 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Bluth Home
Posts: 3,877
|
I don't know that anyone is really pointing him to the door. I just think there are those who can't identify with the struggle. Since they are never going to understand it, their jabs don't have much sting. They may have great insights in other areas, but not on this.
__________________
The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. -Galileo |
02-27-2008, 09:09 PM | #42 |
Board Pinhead
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah.
Posts: 15,941
|
No, there are too many BYU fans in the church hierarchy these days.
__________________
"The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB. |
02-27-2008, 09:10 PM | #43 |
Charon
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo)
Posts: 9,564
|
What on earth did Juanita Brooks do wrong?
__________________
"... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr. |
02-27-2008, 09:12 PM | #44 | |
Demiurge
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 36,365
|
Quote:
In Mormonism, you must be "all-in" but you will never be "all-in" until your calling and election is made sure. Does this lead to decreased happiness? High expectations + low attainment = unhappiness. It's like the complete opposite of zen. Now I'm not saying all Mormons are like this, or the gospel is truly like this, but I think it is so for many Mormons in their version of belief, as taught to them. |
|
02-27-2008, 09:13 PM | #45 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Elk Grove, California
Posts: 211
|
Mike, I am very spiritually liberal
Maybe not so liberal compared to some here however. I fully believe that people can be very spiritual in other faiths. If they find peace there, great. But Mike, I do believe in the restoration and I will not apologize for it. I believe the priesthood was restored. I believe the D&C when it says that one can come closer to God by abiding by the precepts of the BoM than any other book (a book despised by virtually all other faiths). Yes, LDS folk act too pharisaic in practice, IMO, but with all of the factors weighed together, I believe it is by far the best place to be and the only one with priesthood authority. With that authority comes responsibility for its use. That is why I originally suggested in this thread that we focus on the micro level of what we can actually influence with our priesthood and stewardship, rather than righting the ship that is our of place, or that we perceive is out of place.
__________________
Dan Temet Nosce - \"Know Thyself\" |
02-27-2008, 09:18 PM | #46 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Elk Grove, California
Posts: 211
|
Mike, Happiness
Quote:
__________________
Dan Temet Nosce - \"Know Thyself\" |
|
02-27-2008, 09:22 PM | #47 | |
Demiurge
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 36,365
|
Quote:
One of the greatest curses, I think I've come to believe, is to be Mormon and have the mind of a sociologist. |
|
02-28-2008, 03:26 PM | #48 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,596
|
Quote:
The Lord may reveal things to you--about the church, or otherwise--which falls outside your stewardship. He might do so with the proviso of trust that you will not abuse such revelation in unrighteously usurping power or stepping outside of your stewardship. I am quite certain that idea of eliminating the Regional Representatives came to Gordon Hinckley quite a bit sooner than it was implemented. But it didn't happen until he received the proper mantle. My mission president once humbly related a story of a revelation he received about who someone in his ward (not himself) who was to be called bishop. He kept it to himself, and the calling was extended as it had been revealed. Your problem, and apparently Adam's, is that you don't understand (or you understand, but reject) the very real stewardship boundaries of the priesthood. You are the ultimate embodiments of modern-day Uzzahs, stepping outside your bounds because you think you know best. Maybe you do, and maybe you don't. But until you get the mantle, you don't get the right.
__________________
"Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young |
|
02-28-2008, 03:28 PM | #49 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Between Iraq and a hard place
Posts: 7,569
|
Quote:
|
|
02-28-2008, 03:30 PM | #50 | |
Demiurge
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 36,365
|
Quote:
|
|
Bookmarks |
|
|