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I have a cousin who is gay, and has seemed gay as long as I have ever known him. Gay is how he was born.
However, I also have a step sister-in-law who was a lesbian for a while, but is now married to a man. Maybe she is bisexual, I don't know. She's a very annoying person and I try to avoid her, so the topic has never come up. But it would seem there was some choosing going on in her life. So, there is probably data on both sides of the fence. However, I will say, that in my experiece, the couple of gay people that I have known growing up, seemed to be that way from the get-go.
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There is an equally or even higher number of suicides among victims of childhood sexual abuse victims than among homosexuals who do not want to be homosexual. |
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02-27-2008, 01:10 PM | #64 | |
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I think many gays go through a mourning process, like the Kubler-Ross. Usually at the end, they accept themselves, and even are defiant. It comes to be an intrinsic piece of them, just like your intimate life is a intrinsic piece of you, and to rip it away is to perform self-amputation, which in a person who is at peace, is not attractive. |
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You are obviously the one with the most need to feel that it is a conscious choice. Instead of questioning me, you should be questioning yourself. |
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So would the no choicers also agree that pedophiles have no choice in their sexual attraction to children?
Why would someone choose to be attracted to sex with 3 year olds? What about bestiality? I have worked several cases of men who could not control their sexual attraction to animals to the point that they were unable to pass a dead deer carcas on the road without stopping to satisfy themselves. At what point are we as humans responsible for our sexual attractions? |
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I'm not the one that has to question myself. You seem desperate to find an answer for your questions. Unfortunately I have personal experience with childhood abuse. I am very comfortable with my conclusions about just how much of a choice homosexual and any other abnormal sexual behavior is, in a persons life. |
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I don't know that there is a clean anwser to this. I can't understand someone choosing to be attracted to kids or roadkill anymore than I can understand the biochemistry or social factors that would bring about the condition. I do know that it wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was looked at as a perversion. It is now accepted. Where do we draw the line????? In the bestiality cases the lawyers actually argued that it should be O.K. since no humans rights were violated (except for the woman who witnessed the perv in the bushes dropping the hammer on a day old deer carcass) but I think you get my point. |
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