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Old 02-06-2008, 12:02 AM   #11
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Obama is the most liberal senator in the Senate. The Repubs will shred him on that.

As for the war, McCain will make Obama look like a novice. It will not be pretty. People will be struck by how unprepared Obama will look and will not want him as Commander and Chief.

Of course, this is my opinion.
That report that declared him the most liberal senator is pretty suspect. they had Kerry and Edwards at 1/2 in '04. That's pretty convenient.

Your thoughts on how the war debate will play out seem like wishful thinking to me. Somebody who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years and has joked openly about bombing Iran is unlikely to do well against the anti-war candidate given the vast majority of Americans who now disapprove of the war.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:02 AM   #12
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The polls show he'd do better against Hillary. I imagine it's because Hillary can't say that she's been right about Iraq since the beginning and Obama can.
LOL, nice spin. Obama can say he's held the same position about Iraq since the beginning.
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LOL, nice spin. Obama can say he's held the same position about Iraq since the beginning.
Right, that's the point. How is that spin?
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:03 AM   #14
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Obama mortally wounds Clinton?

Intrade is going crazy for Obama, signaling him the clear front runner in the dem race and a frontrunner overall even though his race is tighter than McCain's.
But that can't be!!! SU clearly indicated that Obama has no shot at this point.



The exit polls right now are staggering, if they hold up. Obama could have a HUGE night!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:07 AM   #15
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But that can't be!!! SU clearly indicated that Obama has no shot at this point.



The exit polls right now are staggering, if they hold up. Obama could have a HUGE night!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent. Seeing Hillary lose would be almost as satisfying as seeing Romney win.
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Hillary has made up lots of ground on Obama in the last few minutes. I get the impression they don't know any more than we do.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:26 AM   #17
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That report that declared him the most liberal senator is pretty suspect. they had Kerry and Edwards at 1/2 in '04. That's pretty convenient.

Your thoughts on how the war debate will play out seem like wishful thinking to me. Somebody who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years and has joked openly about bombing Iran is unlikely to do well against the anti-war candidate given the vast majority of Americans who now disapprove of the war.
The debate will be about national security and who is more fit to be the Commander and Chief. Obama will look like a kid.

While the vast majority of Americans want out of Iraq, they don't want to leave as losers. Obama will be protrayed as waving the white flag. How does he counter that?

It will not be pretty.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:47 AM   #18
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The debate will be about national security and who is more fit to be the Commander and Chief. Obama will look like a kid.

While the vast majority of Americans want out of Iraq, they don't want to leave as losers. Obama will be protrayed as waving the white flag. How does he counter that?

It will not be pretty.
That's really not a hard charge to counter. The war is over so it wouldn't be surrendering, it would be ending the occupation, allowing our troops do other things, such as... defending our country. McCain's insistence on staying in Iraq proves that he is less worried about our national security than he is about toeing the party line on Iraq.
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