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BYU71 · 10-04-2007, 05:54 PM

On the subject of Bateman, I don't understand the passion that comes from non-BYU football fans.

For football fans, it was his management style and the argument over how that affected the football program.

What does that have to do with becoming an apostle. If you truly want BYU to be an accpeted academic institution and thought of in a different light than Bob Jones University, the people you have to blame are those giving the President of BYU direction, not the guy doing what he is told to do.

If you accept what BYU is, I think you have to say he was a good President. He would probably make a good apostle as well.

non sequitur · 10-04-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Borg

Well...you're quite Gods gift.

From my vantage point, I will take that as a compliment, especially coming from the likes of you.

It is said, that in the end, you will find yourself in a place with similar people, those that think, behave and believe as you do. A place where you will be comfortable living/existing in.

Heaven forbid if I find myself in a place with you and I'm feeling "comfortable" in that environment.

Honestly, I can only hope to end up in the same place/environment as people such as him, and if the choice be mine, I'd MUCH rather be in the same place that he is bound to go, and be around him and people like him; than you, and people like you.

I just had an "Oh my God! Pinch me" moment. I know you didn't intend it to be, but that was truly hilarious.

The Borg · 10-04-2007, 06:01 PM

SU, if you and I were ever in the same room, it would be something akin to this:

BYU71 · 10-04-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

I just had an "Oh my God! Pinch me" moment. I know you didn't intend it to be, but that was truly hilarious.

Why was that so funny. I am not making any judgement here on his post or your reaction to it.

I have often said to people, if that is where the (insert word) are going, I hope that isn't where I am going. I never thought I said anything funny.

BlueK · 10-04-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I would rather he be named an Apostle than my Stake President.

Actually I am just riding the bandwaggon here. I really don't have anything against President Bateman. I don't know why the angst over him.

He was my stake presdent for many years growing up.

BYU71 · 10-04-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

He was my stake presdent for many years growing up.

and at that point in his life and as SP did he do anything that made you feel better about the church or more negative about the church.

I realize neither is an option also.

BlueK · 10-04-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

and at that point in his life and as SP did he do anything that made you feel better about the church or more negative about the church.

I realize neither is an option also.

Better, no question. He was very personable and related well to the youth. I never saw him as a heavy handed kind of leader as far as church goes. And by the time he was president of BYU I wasn't there anymore, so I have no idea. It does seem like something was definitely amiss in the way the athletic dept., ran.

MikeWaters · 10-04-2007, 06:59 PM

If I am ever made GA/BYU president, I will throw around my GA status at every opportunity. Any disagreement with me is akin to disagreeing with God Himself.

BlueK · 10-04-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If I am ever made GA/BYU president, I will throw around my GA status at every opportunity. Any disagreement with me is akin to disagreeing with God Himself.

D&C 121. ;-)

BYU71 · 10-04-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If I am ever made GA/BYU president, I will throw around my GA status at every opportunity. Any disagreement with me is akin to disagreeing with God Himself.

There would certainly be that temptation. Think of all the members who graduated with an A in Seminary and now they think any disagreement with them is akin to disagreeing with God.

10-04-2007, 05:54 PM	#61
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	On the subject of Bateman, I don't understand the passion that comes from non-BYU football fans. For football fans, it was his management style and the argument over how that affected the football program. What does that have to do with becoming an apostle. If you truly want BYU to be an accpeted academic institution and thought of in a different light than Bob Jones University, the people you have to blame are those giving the President of BYU direction, not the guy doing what he is told to do. If you accept what BYU is, I think you have to say he was a good President. He would probably make a good apostle as well.

10-04-2007, 06:59 PM	#68
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	If I am ever made GA/BYU president, I will throw around my GA status at every opportunity. Any disagreement with me is akin to disagreeing with God Himself.