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MikeWaters · 02-25-2006, 03:59 AM

"We know very little about this time period. Who the people were that were the earliest people that came to America," Owsley said. "We are finding out they were coming thousands of years earlier than we had thought," arriving not just over the Bering Strait but by boats and other means.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science....ap/index.html
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Not that this is new information.

Brian · 02-25-2006, 04:54 AM

9000 years ago?
The earth wasn't finished being created.

Regards,
Brian

Indy Coug · 02-25-2006, 06:42 PM

How reliable is Carbon-14 dating? Has time always been measured the same since time began? Has the earth always rotated and revolved at the same rate?

Brian · 02-25-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

How reliable is Carbon-14 dating? Has time always been measured the same since time began? Has the earth always rotated and revolved at the same rate?

even if it's a little off, the earth is still orders of magnitude older than 6000 years.
Gravitational laws dominate the behaviour of the earth's movement and it seems to be pretty constant.

Regards,
Brian

Alkili · 02-25-2006, 09:19 PM

It is pretty accurate since it is based on radoactive half-life. There are a few issues with atmospheric 14C that not been strictly constant during the span of time that can be radiocarbon dated.

There is usually a standard deviation of 30 radiocarbon years.

Science isn't very consistant seeing how laws and theorys are always changing.

SeattleUte · 03-06-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

"We know very little about this time period. Who the people were that were the earliest people that came to America," Owsley said. "We are finding out they were coming thousands of years earlier than we had thought," arriving not just over the Bering Strait but by boats and other means.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science....ap/index.html
............

Not that this is new information.

Tisk tisk, Mike. No mental gymnasitics needed. Remember?

I don't think anyone has ever questioned the premise that Hebrews or other old world peoples could have come to the Americas by sea. It's more things like in such a short span of time one family couldn't have filled up two continents and split into so many divergent cultures speaking such widely divergent langugages, Asiatic physical charactaristics of American aborigines, no evidence of steel or horses or elephants or wheels pre-European conquest. Things like that. A fellow by the name of Roberts first raised these issues about 100 years ago.

Indy Coug · 03-07-2006, 02:16 AM

Who claimed the Book of Mormon provides a comprehensive history of all the peoples that inhabited the Western Hemisphere anciently? The Book of Mormon talks about at least 3 groups. Certainly, there were others.

Archaea · 03-07-2006, 03:21 AM

I came to this religion late in the game, in the 1970s, and the missionaries taught us erroneous doctrines, but we always thought there were many peoples inhabiting the Americas, including Asians.

Perhaps other subcultures of the US were taught different doctrines, but I never was taught or believed the Nephites were the sole progenitors of the American indians. Never.

SeattleUte · 03-07-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Who claimed the Book of Mormon provides a comprehensive history of all the peoples that inhabited the Western Hemisphere anciently? The Book of Mormon talks about at least 3 groups. Certainly, there were others.

Who claimed it? Everyone in the Mormon Church who mattered until sometime in the 1990's near as I can tell. It was much discussed in GC, by N. Eldon, Mark E. Peterson, and others. There were films, pamphlets, etc. distributed by the missionaries. I can testify there are a whole passle of Otavalanios running around in Ecuador who probably still think they're Hebrews, which is demonstrably false.

SeattleUte · 03-07-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Who claimed the Book of Mormon provides a comprehensive history of all the peoples that inhabited the Western Hemisphere anciently? The Book of Mormon talks about at least 3 groups. Certainly, there were others.

Somebody must have. Otherwise why did B.H. Roberts write "Book of Mormon Studies"?

02-25-2006, 03:59 AM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	people came in boats to the Americas "We know very little about this time period. Who the people were that were the earliest people that came to America," Owsley said. "We are finding out they were coming thousands of years earlier than we had thought," arriving not just over the Bering Strait but by boats and other means. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science....ap/index.html ............ Not that this is new information.

02-25-2006, 09:19 PM	#5
Alkili Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 263	It is pretty accurate since it is based on radoactive half-life. There are a few issues with atmospheric 14C that not been strictly constant during the span of time that can be radiocarbon dated. There is usually a standard deviation of 30 radiocarbon years. Science isn't very consistant seeing how laws and theorys are always changing. __________________ Dark is the Night, but I begin to see the light.

03-07-2006, 03:21 AM	#8
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	I came to this religion late in the game, in the 1970s, and the missionaries taught us erroneous doctrines, but we always thought there were many peoples inhabiting the Americas, including Asians. Perhaps other subcultures of the US were taught different doctrines, but I never was taught or believed the Nephites were the sole progenitors of the American indians. Never. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

02-25-2006, 04:54 AM	#2
Brian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Posts: 1,308	9000 years ago? The earth wasn't finished being created. Regards, Brian

02-25-2006, 06:42 PM	#3
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	How reliable is Carbon-14 dating? Has time always been measured the same since time began? Has the earth always rotated and revolved at the same rate?

03-07-2006, 02:16 AM	#7
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Who claimed the Book of Mormon provides a comprehensive history of all the peoples that inhabited the Western Hemisphere anciently? The Book of Mormon talks about at least 3 groups. Certainly, there were others.